Till Down.. Wages Docked?

paulwf

To enforce the legislation found by Mrs Money I would imagine the manager would have to count and sign for the float with you, not let anyone else access the till during the shift, then count and sign for the final balance with you. My feeling is that unless this is done you would be able to claim that the manager doing the count or other colleagues using the till could be at fault so you are being unfairly penalised. I find it very suspicious you were only informed the once about till shortage procedures and that same day the till was £20 down.

You would of course need to seek legal advice to see if what I say is correct.

scottishf

Did she check the float at the start (with witnesses), if not who is to say that the float was correct to begin with ?

sprogs

bigmanphil wrote: »

i've been i the job 18 months and this is only the second time in 18 months that the till has been down and it was the boss who told us this immediately before the shift, it is the first time she has done so

Looks like you have the answers as to where you legally stand from all the above posts, I am just curious as to what happened the other time the till was down, were wages docked then?

shikoku

I would keep a record of how much they take from you in this manner and when you leave write to them requiring it back; advise them you consider it to have been an unlawful deduction from your salary and leave them in no doubt you will take it further if necessary.

This actually worked for me, it only involved a one off £5.00 till shortfall - a till which more than one person used at the same time and I accepted the deduction without question at the time (or at least appeared to, there was no point creating a fuss there and then)

When I went in to collect my final pay packet, an additional £5.00 note was sourly handed over to me

timmmers

Looks like the till was down lately and maybe she thinks someone has sticky fingers?
Telling people that their deficit comes out of their wages would sort that for her...but not for any innocent working with a thief.

She's basically lost nothing and made you wary of thins for the future...watching each other for mistakes and/or theft.

I've seen this done in loads of places, garages pubs ..anywhere with cash handling basically. I think it's wrong but probably legal since some of those places were huge national busnesses who wouldn't risk it otherwsie. Banks' brewery do this and they are a huge pub chain.

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RobertoMoir

Even if its legally permissible to make these sorts of deductions from a general point of view, I'm really not sure it's possible to implement it "fairly" on a shared till that hadn't been started with a clean float. I think there is a big difference between an error like this that can be traced to one specific person who is the only one who could possibly be responsible and an error that any one of several people could have made. The idea of taking £10 from each of you guarantees that whoever was at fault the boss knows that they've deducted money unfairly from someone who wasn't involved in the mistake and that must surely be outside the boundary of any allowed deductions.

Maybe the boss is deducting £10 from everyone who used the till that day - while that would be "equally unfair" it also sounds like a nice little earner for them ;-).