UK Public favour spending cuts

wolvoman

the_ash_and_the_oak wrote: »

Getting people out of their cars and onto public transport is a tough job in a country where people love their cars even more than they love their houses.

Which is why we should increase all forms of vehicular tax imo (and speeding camera fines)

Why would increasing speeding fines get people out of their cars?

And why do you want people out of their cars? Do you not believe in personal mobility and freedom, or would you like the state to tell people what journeys they should make?

JoeyG

wolvoman wrote: »

Why would increasing speeding fines get people out of their cars?

And why do you want people out of their cars? Do you not believe in personal mobility and freedom, or would you like the state to tell people what journeys they should make?

Are you saying people in Europe have less personal mobility than us? last time I visited there I wasn't told what journeys I could make... they seem to have much less problem getting out of their cars than we do.

the_ash_and_the_oak

wolvoman wrote: »

Why would increasing speeding fines get people out of their cars?

And why do you want people out of their cars? Do you not believe in personal mobility and freedom, or would you like the state to tell people what journeys they should make?

It wouldn't get them out of their cars.

Nothing is going to get them out of their cars so we might as well get some extra revenue out them imo

Don't really mind if they stay in or out of their cars tho

toby3000

wolvoman wrote: »

Why would increasing speeding fines get people out of their cars?

And why do you want people out of their cars? Do you not believe in personal mobility and freedom, or would you like the state to tell people what journeys they should make?

I think the state should make it less attractive to drive. It is clear that people are never going to take personal responsibility for it.

The problem is that people hear something like 'If the HMRC turned off it's computers it would save £80million this year", so they think cuts are easy to make

Graham_Devon

the_ash_and_the_oak wrote: »

It wouldn't get them out of their cars.

Nothing is going to get them out of their cars so we might as well get some extra revenue out them imo

Don't really mind if they stay in or out of their cars tho

Theres a thin line where you would make me, and thousands of others wonder if it's any longer worth working, or worth joining the benefit queue though.

Make it too expensive for me to go to work, and quite simply, I won't go, and I'll sponge instead.

ses6jwg

I drive because

1) The government got rid of all the rail links in my area 30 years ago - cheers for that.

2) 1 bus a week comes past my house

3) The buses are full of old people, which I dont mind, but also smelly peasants.

Poll is again probably filled in by a bunch of NIMBYs, like all other such poll.

Oh yes cut benefits, as long as its not MY benefits.

Eric_Pisch

toby3000 wrote: »

I think the state should make it less attractive to drive. It is clear that people are never going to take personal responsibility for it.

The problem is that people hear something like 'If the HMRC turned off it's computers it would save £80million this year", so they think cuts are easy to make

Some of you people here are very deluded about car drivers, not just the above poster.

You think we drive for fun, some form of loathing of people using public transport or to spite those who dogmatically chant the new religious clap trap of climate change?

For alot of people driving is a must, life simply ceases to exist for us with out a car. I have a disabled mother so I moved to a rural area to be very close to her. Public transport which is now privatised has no interest in loss making areas like mine. All our local shops have gone thanks to the supermarkets and our nearest one is 7 miles away. I also commute to work via car, I have to carry 4 boxes of parts and tools, not enough to warrant a van but certainly more than you could lug about on public transport.

For alot of us cars are impossible to do with out.

If you want to raise some extra money then tax those that need to contribute not those who are at breaking point already. Cyclists for a start. compulsory driving test to ensure they know the how to ride and the high way code. A displayed road tax is a must for them and proof of insurance. Then they get a fine of £1000 every time they break the highway code like jumping red lights. The plague of ignorant cyclists on the roads now is at epidemic proportions 90% of them dont even seam to know what a vehicle blind spot is, or have a death wish.

drc

the_ash_and_the_oak wrote: »

Getting people out of their cars and onto public transport is a tough job in a country where people love their cars even more than they love their houses.

Which is why we should increase all forms of vehicular tax imo (and speeding camera fines)

I don't think that it is just that people love their cars. In London at least, public transport is expensive, unreliable and dirty. Why would you want to wait ages for a smelly, slow, expensive bus or train when you can drive your own car at your own pace to your destination. Until public transport becomes better value for money, people will continue to use their cars.

the_ash_and_the_oak

drc wrote: »

I don't think that it is just that people love their cars. In London at least, public transport is expensive, unreliable and dirty. Why would you want to wait ages for a smelly, slow, expensive bus or train when you can drive your own car at your own pace to your destination. Until public transport becomes better value for money, people will continue to use their cars.

I live in London. Judging by the traffic if I was driving I don't think it would be at my own pace imo

Pennywise

drc wrote: »

Until public transport becomes better value for money, people will continue to use their cars.

Until public transport actually "exists" for most people living outside the main cities, people will continue to use their costs. For me, it's not about cost, there simply is no way of using public transport to commute from one town to another, just 20 minutes up the road - takes about 2 hours to go by train with 2 changes and the buses take forever going through just about every village on the way, not to mention having to use a car/taxi at each end because the train stations and bus stops aren't walkable from the start/end destinations. Most areas of the UK simply don't have a coherent public transport service.