What would happen if.. .. ..0

borders_dude

I am a NRP who has a case under old rules.

If I split with my present partner, to whom I have a daughter, and we went through the CSA.....

Would both cases be under new rules?

kelloggs36

Yes but you would be subject to phasing and so no better off for a long while - it would take up to 5 years to get it so that your cases are split.

Angel3108

My Husband (NRP) was under the old rules, when his Ex (PWC) had another child with someone else and went through csa for the new child, the cases were linked and hubby was put onto the new rules.
Not sure if this is the case with all or not but I would assume so??

borders_dude

Thanks Kelloggs. Just thinking about it today incase me and by partner were to split. Though I hope that dont happen!

shell_542

How does that work though? The phasing?

Say, totally hypothetic figures ... on CS1 an NRP was paying £400 a month for 2 children to PWC1.

Splits with his partner, who then claims and becomes PWC2 for their 2 children.

When working out the new amount for child support to PWC2 do they take into account how much he is paying PWC1?

If yes, that £400 a month could bring the accessable net income of the NRP right down so PWC2 could end up with say £5 a week and PWC1 £100 a week.

If they don't take into account the child support he is paying to PWC1, then the 15% could be say another £200 a month for PWC2. Add to that the £400 a month for PWC1 and the NRP could be seriously struggling finances wise.

How do they work out the phasing and the split?

I hope that makes sense lol

speedster

kelloggs36 wrote: »

Yes but you would be subject to phasing and so no better off for a long while - it would take up to 5 years to get it so that your cases are split.

has it changed then? if a new case opened on csa2, then open csa1 cases go straight to csa2.

or have they move the goal posts again?

Gloomy_Past_Bright_Future

My OH and I split up for 3 months about two years ago.

We went through the CSA for our child, and then as a result his child with his ex was then transferred to CS2, no phasing whatsoever.

When we did get back together I cancelled the CSA and as a result for then only paying for his child with his ex, we have ended up £400 per month better off by switching from CS1 to CS2!:T

kelloggs36

Phasing was always there Speedster.

speedster

kelloggs36 wrote: »

Phasing was always there Speedster.

aye, but a new case would always shunt you over onto csa2 as the NRP cannot be on both systems (as above case). the advice to anyone stuck on csa1 was to have a new claim made against them and as soon as you were phased over, the other case would miraculously be closed and your original case would now be on csa2.

it was the only way to get onto csa2 as the computer designed to do the job was and is, a joke.

so, have they stopped phasing altogether now then??

shell_542

How can they possibly do phasing without the PWC2 or the NRP being worse off than they should be?

Loopy_Girl

shell_542 wrote: »

How can they possibly do phasing without the PWC2 or the NRP being worse off than they should be?

They can't. There was a regular poster on here, markeymark, who hasn't posted ages. Really nice bloke who had 2 kids to 2 women and was a decent NRP - saw his kids etc - and he was on phasing and he used to post up how much got taken from his wages....some months it could be £400 odd and then the next it was £700 and he had no idea how much was getting taken until he got his payslip....it was a nightmare for him.

But I think it was intruduced to stop couple 'splitting' up for a couple of months and then getting back and then the case would be CSA2 automatically which would always mean that PWC1 would have a sharp drop in their CSA. The phasing is to give PWC1 a change to readjust to the new payments.

p.s Eastenders last night - yes Owen, always trust a bird you have met for 2 hours that her condoms won't be tampered with;)