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10past6
10past6 Posts: 4,962 Forumite
edited 30 October 2009 at 8:23PM in Debt-free wannabe
For anyone facing a litigation claim issued by a creditor, should you be on a DMP self managed, managed through a company or charity, DO NOT involve whoever is managing your DMP.

This week alone, I've come across 4 individual cases 2 on the forums, and 2 via PM re members who've involved their DMP agents when faced with a litigation claim.

Allow the DMP agents to do what they're good at i.e. pay your creditors, should you involve your DMP agent, they WON'T become involved in disputed claims, you'll be asked to admit the claim.

Any creditor has a legal right to pursue an “alleged” debt, you as the defendant also have a legal right to pursue the claimant has complied with current legislation laid down by parliament, in rush to seek judgement, many don't, however, admitting an “alleged” debt condenses your rights considerably.

One other point, I was contacted recently re a defendant who had submitted a defence but had no idea re the defence they'd submitted as they'd used a copy and paste text, this is not a criticism, but I need to make the point for anyone facing litigation should you use a copy and paste as a defence, be 110% certain you understand the defence you're submitting, nothing more embarrassing for a defendant than having to explain a defence they don't understand.

The majority of debt court cases are dealt with by District Judges, do not take it for granted a DJ is an expert on Consumer legislation, they're not, it's for a defendant to show what / if any breaches in legislation a claimant has breached.

There are numerous experts on here with knowledge in certain debt issues, we're all here to help, so if in any doubt, ask, ask and ask again ;)
Click here for Martins (MSE) advice on who to contact with Debt Issues - YOU HAVE NO REASON TO USE A FEE PAYING DEBT MANAGEMENT COMPANY- THEY CANNOT DO ANYMORE FOR YOU THAN THOSE LISTED IN MY LINK ABOVE.

All information given by myself is offered informally and without prejudice - if in doubt seek help from a qualified and insured professional
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  • RAS
    RAS Posts: 35,658 Forumite
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    Given 2 cases I have posted here on today, I would second this.

    DMP agents are great BUT they are not able to help you dispute litigation, whether it is a CCJ or Charging Order.

    There are people here and on other forums who can provide you with valuable advice which may enable you to fight the legal action against you successfully. Several people on here have done just that.

    But the starting point is that YOU must be prepared to stand up for yourself. If you allow the DMP provider to admit the claim, you have lost at first base.

    So please check things out on here, particularly if the account was opened a long time ago.

    So when those papers arrive, keep calm and come on here.
    If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing
  • Numpty_Monkey
    Numpty_Monkey Posts: 14,196 Forumite
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    Excellent posts by 10past6 and RAS:A:T:T:T
    PROUD TO BE DEALING WITH MY DEBT NERD #869
    Numpty,Not sure why but I'm crying :o . Of all the peeps on this board you're the kindest & most supportive of all & I'm :mad: & :( for you all at the same time . Wish I was there to give you a big :grouphug: & emergency hobnobs
    xx
    DFD 5/1/16
  • Great post.

    I'm on a dmp with CCCS and have been for a while and they have been great. However, should any legal issues arise, I'd rather post on here for advice.
    Debt 30k in 2008.:eek::o Cleared all my debt in 2013 and loving being debt free :)
    Mortgage free since 2014 :)
  • tealady
    tealady Posts: 3,850 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Mortgage-free Glee!
    I think this needs to be a sticky.
    Find out who you are and do that on purpose (thanks to Owain Wyn Jones quoting Dolly Parton)
  • Shoe_Gal
    Shoe_Gal Posts: 7,235 Forumite
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    tealady wrote: »
    I think this needs to be a sticky.

    I second that :D
    Sometimes it's hard to walk in a single woman's shoes - that's why we need really special ones!
    Total debt @ Oct 2008: £29,226.42 Credit Card- £[STRIKE]7493.56[/STRIKE] - £7243.56
    Weightloss : 0/34lbs
  • pepe2008
    pepe2008 Posts: 5,158 Forumite
    Precisely why I am currently making arrangements to manage my own DMP. CCCS have been great, but any real issues have been dealt with by me with the guidance and advice from these Forums.
    All my Creditors have agreed apart from the problem one ( 1st Credit ) whose 'debt' is unenforceable and Complaints are in with FOS regaring them and the OC, Citibank.( so they can go swivel!)
    CCCS seem to not get involved with anything except paying the Creditors and dont seem to be able to offer specific advice.

    Contrary to what some on these forums have experienced, MBNA, Blair Oliver and Scott and Barclaycard ( after some 'persuasion' ) have been very easy to deal with. Lets hope this continues.
    :D:D stay wonky :D:D

    ....one-way ticket to Portugal booked !
  • Katy83
    Katy83 Posts: 531 Forumite
    Debt-free and Proud!
    Just wanted to bump this up - definitely think it should be a sticky.
    LBM 17th August 2009 Debt at LBM £18,612 Proud to be dealing with my debts.
  • DarkConvict
    DarkConvict Posts: 6,346 Forumite
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    Agreed, make this a sticky.
    Although no trees were harmed during the creation of this post, a large number of electrons were greatly inconvenienced.

    There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies
  • 10past6
    10past6 Posts: 4,962 Forumite
    This requires a wee bump ;)
    Click here for Martins (MSE) advice on who to contact with Debt Issues - YOU HAVE NO REASON TO USE A FEE PAYING DEBT MANAGEMENT COMPANY- THEY CANNOT DO ANYMORE FOR YOU THAN THOSE LISTED IN MY LINK ABOVE.

    All information given by myself is offered informally and without prejudice - if in doubt seek help from a qualified and insured professional
  • immoral_angeluk
    immoral_angeluk Posts: 24,506 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    *kicks thread in the bum, bumping it back up to the top*
    Total 'Failed Business' Debt £29,043
    Que sera, sera. <3
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