We're living in a fool's paradise

ruggedtoast

And anyway - why on earth should we put funding the acquisition of the knowledge of the human race in the hands of a bunch of people who thought that self certified mortgages were a good idea, or who dont seem to be able to run a single train line to timetable.

I fail to see why research should have to go to the private sector to beg for money.

StevieJ

JP45 wrote: »

Polling data shows that 48pc of the public are against any spending cuts

This was the other point that I found quite startling. How can almost half the British public seriously believe that the government can rebalance the books without any spending cuts. What would these people rather have - massive tax rises, or do they believe that the government can somehow just continue borrowing ad infinitum.

Makes you wonder if a Tory govt is such a certaintly

dopester

ruggedtoast wrote: »

And anyway - why on earth should we put funding the acquisition of the knowledge of the human race in the hands of a bunch of people who thought that self certified mortgages were a good idea, or who dont seem to be able to run a single train line to timetable.

I fail to see why research should have to go to the private sector to beg for money.

You'd have a problem with banker-classes, (commercial funds) being asked to invest or contribute in funding professors, projects and research, instead than the state.... which might see the banker-classes having to receive less pay?

You'd prefer to tax-payer to continue picking up all costs and the banking-classes to keep skimming all the money? kk

dopester

StevieJ wrote: »

Makes you wonder if a Tory govt is such a certaintly

Do you think the good times will keep rolling under spendaway Labour? Simply because they wouldn't make the necessary cuts and action.

So Conservatives won't get in, because people feel it will all be kept happy-days under Labour? :rotfl: They will lead you to hell on earth imo.

Out,_Vile_Jelly

StevieJ wrote: »

How are these to be going on with

Ernest Rutherford working at Manchester University discovered how to split the atom in 1919.

The first computer with a stored programme and memory, nicknamed "Baby", was developed at Manchester University in 1948 by professors Tom Kilburn and Fred Williams

John Dalton was the scientific colossus of early industrial Manchester. His atomic theory (1803) with its pioneering work on the constitution of elements was the precursor of all modern chemistry whilst his lectures on meteorology turned the study of the weather into a science. He was also the first to describe color blindness.

I jest, the Northern and Midland redbricks are generally very good, with many of them world leading in particular areas (Liverpool's vet school and equine hospital for example). Manchester doesn't make the top 10 though: http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/datablog/2009/oct/08/top-100-universities-world

Sir_Humphrey

JP45 wrote: »

What would these people rather have - massive tax rises, or do they believe that the government can somehow just continue borrowing ad infinitum.

I think most people would prefer tax rises to having American-style public services.

The delusion of the last 15 years has been that you can have low taxes and European style services. UK taxes are low by Western European standards, particularly for the better off and rich.

1984ReturnsForReal_2

nor that 48% of the public are opposed to spending cuts

& 70% of use prefered pay as you throw according to the Government & The BBC..


Its all in the question you see..

StevieJ

dopester wrote: »

Do you think the good times will keep rolling under spendaway Labour? Simply because they wouldn't make the necessary cuts and action.

So Conservatives won't get in, because people feel it will all be kept happy-days under Labour? :rotfl: They will lead you to hell on earth imo.

Doesn't matter what I think, it is what the majority of voters think

Polling data shows that 48pc of the public are against any spending cuts and only 20pc see the need for retrenchment.

thriftybabe

purch wrote: »

Planet Me !!!!

I spoke to a local council worker and she told me that the council needs to cut £111 million in the next three years. She says it will come from reducing the fruit giving to school children, the water given will need to be paid for. I do not have a problem with this at all but i would like to think that those that need most still are able to get this. In addition library hours are going to be reduced and some volunteers Xmas lunches etc will need to be cancelled.

Unfortunately some things will have to go! It is just what has to happen.

JP45

Sir_Humphrey wrote: »

I think most people would prefer tax rises to having American-style public services.

I'm not so sure that they would. I can't help thinking that those 48% who are opposed to any spending cuts would, in reality, be equally opposed to the inevitable tax rises, particularly given the scale of tax rises that would be needed in the absence of any spending cuts.