Tory cuts could be mighty unpleasant

treliac

carolt wrote: »

I'm sure when I was younger we were told that computers and automisation of previously dull jobs would mean a bright new future! Working less hours, and less hard!

Yeah we were. Hollow promise that one. But perhaps that was when everyone actually wanted and/or expected to work, rather than a proportion expecting not to have to work and to be kept on the proceeds of the work of others.

alm721

If all those who 'choose' not to work and happily sponge off the state, got off their !!!!!! and worked for a living, retirement age could probably be left alone! and before anyone jumps on me I don't mean those who can't work for whatever reason, just those who've decided that its a much easier life replying on others to keep them.

whathavewedone

Well the most recent poll has the tories 19 points ahead so it seems that people have some respect for the honest approach.

I know a few people who work for the NHS and they are relaxed about public sector pay freezes.

lemonjelly

whathavewedone wrote: »

Well the most recent poll has the tories 19 points ahead so it seems that people have some respect for the honest approach.

I know a few people who work for the NHS and they are relaxed about public sector pay freezes.

Yep. I work in a college, & general conversations with colleagues have gone down the route of "I'll happily have a pay freeze, because if money is tight it'll mean we'll at least have a good chance of staying employed".

Seems to be a consensus on this in other sectors too.

I think there is still a big fear of becoming unemployed out there, as there aren't many jobs. In 2006 I was applying for jobs, & my local paper(s) would have headlines announcing 1600 jobs in tonights edition. For the past 18 months, one paper has only got above 250 jobs once, the other only has 1-2 pages of jobs. When you consider many of those ads are agencies to...

Plus, factor in that competiton for jobs is higher than it has been in recent history.

StevieJ

whathavewedone wrote: »

Well the most recent poll has the tories 19 points ahead so it seems that people have some respect for the honest approach.

I know a few people who work for the NHS and they are relaxed about public sector pay freezes.

It is not honesty it is merely an election tactic, when did politicians start doing honesty

Sir_Humphrey

StevieJ wrote: »

It is not honesty it is merely an election tactic, when did politicians start doing honesty

Whathavewedone is a Tory shill and I claim my tenner.

Thrugelmir

StevieJ wrote: »

It is not honesty it is merely an election tactic, when did politicians start doing honesty

There needs to a cultural shift to re-engage people with politicals.

My son has no idea who Mrs T was or what the Unions are about.

It is time to move on.

kennyboy66_2

Thrugelmir wrote: »

My son has no idea who Mrs T was or what the Unions are about.

It is time to move on.

Shame on you.

Like her or loath her, everyone should have an understanding of history.

If you have not got a sense of the past, you can't make much sense of the present.

StevieJ

Thrugelmir wrote: »

There needs to a cultural shift to re-engage people with politicals.

My son has no idea who Mrs T was or what the Unions are about.

It is time to move on.

Is our education system that bad :eek:

carolt

lemonjelly wrote: »

Yep. I work in a college, & general conversations with colleagues have gone down the route of "I'll happily have a pay freeze, because if money is tight it'll mean we'll at least have a good chance of staying employed".

Seems to be a consensus on this in other sectors too.

I think there is still a big fear of becoming unemployed out there, as there aren't many jobs. In 2006 I was applying for jobs, & my local paper(s) would have headlines announcing 1600 jobs in tonights edition. For the past 18 months, one paper has only got above 250 jobs once, the other only has 1-2 pages of jobs. When you consider many of those ads are agencies to...

Plus, factor in that competiton for jobs is higher than it has been in recent history.

It's interesting - and scary - that on the Reed website, I discovered browsing the other day, you can see not only the details of the jobs but also the details of exactly how many applications each job has received. The numbers were frightening -for really quite lousy, unskilled jobs paying barely (if at all) above minimum wage, there would be like 75, 125 etc applicants. Secretary, customer service jobs etc - dozens and dozens.. Even evening cleaners - the kind of thing that a year or 2 ago they would have struggled to find anyone to do.

Luckily, I'm not really looking for those sorts of jobs, but if one were made redundant and desperate to find anything to pay the bills, it is clearly a very, very difficult time to find that kind of job. Made sad reading.