Tory cuts could be mighty unpleasant

Thrugelmir

StevieJ wrote: »

I thought you were admiring Tory substance as opposed to Labour (in another post)

There's a difference between some substance on individual topics such as retirement age and listing quotes about the dangers of "cuts" when we don't know how the Tories will tackle the matter of fiscal stimulus.

The ride isn't going to be smooth. Even the BOE has no idea of the impact of QE and how long it will take to withdraw it.

However if people on an individual level adjust to the idea of getting their finances in order, preparing for the worst. Then maybe the worst won't happen. The economy can only be steered by the Government of the day not run. Policy only sets direction. The impact of policy happens over a far longer period.

StevieJ

Thrugelmir wrote: »

However if people on an individual level adjust to the idea of getting their finances in order, preparing for the worst. Then maybe the worst won't happen. The economy can only be steered by the Government of the day not run. Policy only sets direction. The impact of policy happens over a far longer period.

If people in general prepare for the worst, the worst is sure to happen :eek:

Thrugelmir

StevieJ wrote: »

If people in general prepare for the worst, the worst is sure to happen :eek:

I think you underestimate individuals ability to adapt to a change in circumstances. :j

nickj_2

at least george osbourne has the guts to say that we're in the mire and we need to pay for the years of reckless unsustainable labour spending spree
remember, it was only a couple of weeks ago that gordon only managed to admit to cuts and he was claimed to be the greatest chancellor since the last one

FrankieBoyle

The current tory plans will condemn us all to penury.

They are beyond idiotic.

The lack of intelligence displayed by these supposedly educated intelligent men who want us to elect them is simply staggering, and the very thought of them at the controls of our economy is truly horrific.

IMHO

Thrugelmir

FrankieBoyle wrote: »

The current tory plans will condemn us all to penury.

They are beyond idiotic.

The lack of intelligence displayed by these supposedly educated intelligent men who want us to elect them is simply staggering, and the very thought of them at the controls of our economy is truly horrific.

IMHO

What plans are these? Have I missed something.

chaostheory

I truly despair for the next election: an effectively invisible Liberal party, a Labour party which as lost any sense of purpose or meaning other than a desperate clinging on to power, and now the Tories. They singularly fail to offer anything other than public service cuts and a few meaningless aphorisms about social responsibility. Seems like a lot of reheated Thatcherite tosh to me.

Nothing like a bunch of multi-millionaire silver spooned toffs telling us how "we are all in it together".
What a load of ****.

Afriend_2

chaostheory wrote: »

I truly despair for the next election: an effectively invisible Liberal party, a Labour party which as lost any sense of purpose or meaning other than a desperate clinging on to power, and now the Tories. They singularly fails to offer anything other than public service cuts and a few meaningless aphorisms about social responsibility. Seems like a lot of reheated Thatcherite tosh to me.

Nothing like a bunch of multi-millionaire silver spooned toffs telling us how "we are all in it together".
What a load of ****.

The Liberal party don't receive the same press coverage.
Vince Cable would make the best Chancellor of the Exchequer IMHO.
Nick Clegg seems like a decent chap too. Better than the other two.

wageslave

Of all the hardships that are inevitably coming, the extra years we are expected to work are the most unfair.

It isn't even remarkable that the those who do actually work are to do so for even longer to pay for those who wont. We pay our NI contributions all our working lives in the mistaken belief we can retire at a fairly reasonable age on an admittably less than adequate pension.

All this policy does is widen the gap between the fortunate few with their gold plated pensions who will retire at 55 and the rest of us.

I feel like cannon fodder.

GeneHunt_2

Are the Tories going to snatch Defeat from the Jaws of Victory?

How many voters have they alienated this week?

Those on incapacity benefit (work or have benefits cut)
Public sector workers (who don't fancy a pay freeze)
Anyone with savings (there are more savers than people with mortgages but interest rates cannot be allowed to go up so removing tax is a bit pointless)
Anyone who likes cheap alcohol (how do they decide your motives for buying a bottle of booze?)
Middle class (remove their tax credits)
Up the retirement age (anyone looking forward to retiring at 65)
Osborne (well... does he do much for you?)

Who have they won over?