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X-Mas Retail Season.... Boom or Bust?
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Nearlynew to the left of me in his Che Guevara T-shirt banging on about Christmas being the ultimate consumeristic !!!!!! filled debt-orgy for equity monkeys and Hamish to the right of me; cuban cigar, whiskey, hat at a januty angle and two twenty-something admin workers from accounts payable on each knee hanging off his every word concerning his property acquisitions.
I can almost smell the cranberry sauce.
:rotfl:
.........“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
Ye gods, does this tiresome, empty sloganeering ever stop?
Cleaver, you might "have it in for me" and be looking for a way to continually try to discredit my message.
But what I say is true and is there for everyone, including yourself, to see.
The reason there is not so much spending going on is because there is not much borrowing going on.
The spending and "prosperity" of the last decade was all based on borrowing money against inflated assest prices. Without the corruption and deception, there is no money.
Real wealth comes from making and doing things not borrowing and buying things. Or paying higher and higher prices for the same houses.
Borrowing and consuming can never take the place of producing and saving if we are to create a strong, sustainable and equitable economy.
Debt IS NOT wealth."The problem with quotes on the internet is that you never know whether they are genuine or not" -
Albert Einstein0 -
Cleaver, you might "have it in for me" and be looking for a way to continually try to discredit my message.
But what I say is true and is there for everyone, including tourself, to see.
I don't have it in for you at all. Just bored of reading the same slogans and phrases again and again and again. And nothing is 'there for everyone', including myself, to see. It's a big, complex world out there and your neat slogans, unsurprisingly, don't really sum it all up for me.Debt IS NOT wealth.
Why don't you just make these phrases part of your signature? Then you could get on with actually posting something that has substance.
Sorry, I sound a bit ratty. You can obviously post what the hell you like, it's nothing to do with me. But you've pointed me in the direction of interesting websites and articles in the past, are obviously intelligent and are clearly passionate about your opinions. But then just choose to post empty, student-esq sound bites. Seems a bit of a waste. But as I say, nowt to do with me, post whatever you like.0 -
Debt IS NOT wealth.
Hey Cleaver, do you think if we ask Martin nicely he'll expand the vocabulary of these netbots?
The current slogans are getting boring.:money:“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »Hey Cleaver, do you think if we ask Martin nicely he'll expand the vocabulary of these netbots?
The current slogans are getting boring.:money:
I don't think you're in a position to comment you big HPI cheerleader.
Not making many friends here am I?0 -
People don't have money anymore. They have "equity"
The past decade's growth and propsperity has been based on debt. Take away the debt fuelled by HPI and their is no money.
Debt is not wealth.
Never has been, never will be.
Speak for yourself we have both:p
I think many people have had to look at their spending more closely this year, we have been doing so for years which is probably why we have equity and savings.
Christmas is over rated, I like to get together with the family share a meal exchange modest gifts but the rampant consumerism I know goes on is not part of my life.
I think some people will still blow the budget and end up regretting it but many others will restrain themselves so who knows what the net result will be?0 -
i can't believe NearlyRich replied to NearlyNew!!
NearlyPoor will be next!!0 -
I don't think you're in a position to comment you big HPI cheerleader.
If you can't see the difference between arguing a case in detail, using sources, referring to facts, and providing opinion and analysis.... with empty one line sloganeering, then theres probably no hope for you.Not making many friends here am I?
No, not really.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
Right, I'm off to the pub with Mrs C. And just for kicks I'm going to open a tab on a credit card.
Debt does not equal wealth, but it might just equal a couple of pints of Guinness and a glass or two or Rioja.0
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