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Mortgage Arrears

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  • nembot
    nembot Posts: 1,234 Forumite
    Tiz good news for many people, undoubtably due to historically low interest rates - these need to rise, but the repercussions would be disasterous.

    Bit of a pickle if you ask me.
  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
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    edited 22 September 2009 at 8:45AM
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    This applies to Building Societies not banks or other financial institutions. So does not include HBOS or B&B or NR or Lehmans or GMAC for example. So is misleading as many building societies maintained quality lending during the boom.

    do you mean 'quality lending' like the Chelsea, West Browmwich or even Skipton building societies did? :rolleyes:

    that's just 3 - there are plenty more... each and everyone of them has a massive bad debt ratio.

    it contradicts what you're saying here
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Dunfermline Building Society has been bailed out by the Nationwide since then. ;)

    why can't people grasp the fact that less repossessions and people paying back arrears are a good thing. why can't people be happy with this?? :confused:
  • chucky wrote: »

    why can't people grasp the fact that less repossessions and people paying back arrears are a good thing. why can't people be happy with this?? :confused:

    agree, but underneath a more basic "wanting prices to fall/rise" perspective I think the current situation is leads to a split here is between those wanting to stay where they are and those hoping to move/buy/sell (with the former happier about things than the latter).
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  • penguine
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    agree, but underneath a more basic "wanting prices to fall/rise" perspective I think the current situation is leads to a split here is between those wanting to stay where they are and those hoping to move/buy/sell (with the former happier about things than the latter).

    I'd like house prices to fall further by the time we're ready to buy (in the next year or so). But I'm not really keen to see repossessions rise -- I don't think it would be good for society or for banks' balance sheets -- and I don't personally want to buy a repo either.

    So, can we have falling house prices without high numbers of repossessions?
  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    What became of the bear repo feeding frenzy then? No doubt they will now cling to unemployment figures, but that's another false dawn for sure.
  • Thrugelmir
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    Conrad wrote: »
    What became of the bear repo feeding frenzy then? No doubt they will now cling to unemployment figures, but that's another false dawn for sure.

    No one wants mass repossessions. That would send both property and financial markets into freefall. The "mortgage" banks aren't out of intensive care yet by any means.
  • penguine wrote: »
    I'd like house prices to fall further by the time we're ready to buy (in the next year or so). But I'm not really keen to see repossessions rise -- I don't think it would be good for society or for banks' balance sheets -- and I don't personally want to buy a repo either.

    So, can we have falling house prices without high numbers of repossessions?

    Aw, you ask so nicely, it's almost worth saying yes to.
    Much better than the demanding type usually seen.

    You could be quite fortunate if you are looking to buy next year. Many are predicting falls over the winter (by 8-9% on average) before the market turns again in spring / summer.

    We might know a bit better in a years time how the economy and indeed house prices are likely to continue, be it further falls again over the winter, stagnation or the start of increasing prices.

    Good luck when you make the move
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    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
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  • nearlynew
    nearlynew Posts: 3,800 Forumite
    HPI cheerleaders keep reminding us that home ownership is not for everybody and that not everyone can afford to buy their own home.

    Isn't repossession just a manifestation of this ?

    It is probably only through cheap and easy credit that these people would have been able to buy in the first place.
    Now that has been removed.................
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  • Thrugelmir wrote: »
    This applies to Building Societies not banks or other financial institutions. So does not include HBOS or B&B or NR or Lehmans or GMAC for example. So is misleading as many building societies maintained quality lending during the boom.

    Actually the research was based on all lenders not just building society customers. The only part specifically related to building societies was the part about lenders views. - I know this for sure as I was involved in developing the research.
  • penguine wrote: »
    I'd like house prices to fall further by the time we're ready to buy (in the next year or so). But I'm not really keen to see repossessions rise -- I don't think it would be good for society or for banks' balance sheets -- and I don't personally want to buy a repo either.

    So, can we have falling house prices without high numbers of repossessions?

    I think this is what will happen imo. Prices dropping not because of the problems of owners - but because of the problems of buyers - but that is necessarily a far slower process
    Prefer girls to money
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