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national debt line advice

Just a general question (can supply detailed financial info if requested).

OH earns 28k, I get £30 per week child benefit (2 kids), no other income.

Gives us about £1780 per month.

Outgoings were nearly that until we spoke to National Debtline who said we should say to Company's we owe that we can't afford to pay them so hold off everything and don't pay anything.

Felt guilty so I wrote and spoke to all the Companies, Barclys bank, Mastercard, Debenhams card etc etc and offered them different amounts, a fiver here, twenty pound there etc.

All have nearly agreed now and have frozen interest but am still paying out £1200 per month.

Leaves us about £150 per week which sounds a lot but food, electric, nappies (2 kids 4&2), travel to work etc etc is a struggle.

Should I have offered to pay nothing to these companies as per National DebtLine's advice or are we well off and we don't realise it.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks

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  • ms_london
    ms_london Posts: 2,852 Forumite
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    It depends on whether you can afford your proposed repayments or if like you say, you are still paying out too much?

    Could you list your budget/SOA here for us to look at? Perhaps there is something you/National Debt Line may have missed?

    Well done on dealing with the creditors direct though, at least they are accepting your repayment proposals. If you really are struggling then you might need to go back to them and explain this.

    xx
  • fatbelly
    fatbelly Posts: 23,060 Forumite
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    Hi

    I think Ms London's right - if you can give us a breakdown of the £1200 we might be able to make some suggestions.

    Just looked at your previous post. Did you enjoy Gran Canaria? Were the cigarettes cheap?

    Oh dear. Sounds like I'm having a dig. I'm not really. Just jealous - I'm just about to go on a £40 holiday to North Devon that was in the local paper.

    I think you've made a brilliant start on your debts.
  • ,hills
    ,hills Posts: 136 Forumite
    Will start on budget sheet for display

    Grand canaria was great, paid last minute, expected poor accomodation etc but was brillient.

    OH and kids loved it

    Fags were 1/2 price.

    Thanks
  • AGB863
    AGB863 Posts: 521 Forumite
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    ,hills wrote:
    OH earns 28k, I get £30 per week child benefit (2 kids), no other income.

    Do you not claim / get child tax credits?

    If you have not claimed you would be entiltled to get a payment based on the info you have indicated.
    I am a debt counsellor working in the voluntary sector - we don't charge our clients for the work we do!
  • ,hills
    ,hills Posts: 136 Forumite
    here's the list of in's and out's on a monthly basis

    I've not gone into things like holidays,Xmas,Birthdays etc as I can't really budget for them because theres not enough money spare.

    I have to depend on winning competitions for presents (get stored in the cupboard), wins I don't want go on Ebay, sold to friends etc, or car boots.

    Some stuff keep, Kids toys, meals out to use for me and other half to get out,
    If it wasn't for the wins (long may they last) i don't know how we would survive.
    Been lucky over last few years, won a car (sold it), other decent things sold, even got a holiday win booked for this October in Gozo, off Malta, 5* Ta Cenc Hotel. Don't know if will turn up at airport, depends if any cash to go with. It's not transferrable so can't sell it.

    Have arranged offers of payment to nearly all companies we owe but i know they will be back on phone soon wanting to re assess things.

    Originally contacted National Debtline and their budget form we used and took advice from said don't offer anything but we felt guilty and offered them the below payments.

    Same problem as most people with Family/Child Tax Credit, one month get something, next month stopped and being told overpaid, contest decision, wait for next letter, meanwhile receice nothing.

    Not sure what to do now as getting sick of living week/month by month.
    Should I offer them nothing ?
    Should i pay for a debt amangement company to sort things out to get a bit of peace ?

    Any advice appreciated.
    Thanks


    Outgoings per month

    Rent (private) 695
    Water rates 20
    Poll tax 133
    Tv Licence 11
    Car Insurance 35
    House Insurance 15
    Email 4
    Mobile Bill 60 (don't have land line)
    Sky Tv 46
    Poll Tax (previous yrs) 15 owe £1080 from when signed on
    JSA (overpaid 2004) 15 owe £520 from when signed on
    John Lewis Store Card 5 owe £1050
    Debenhams Store Card 10 owe £800
    John Lewis credit card 5 owe £ 1335
    Barclays Visa Card 9 owe £701
    barclays Master Card 14 owe £1131
    Barclays Overdraft 56 owe £2700
    Direct Line loan 20 owe £2580


    Income

    Salary 1670
    Child benefit 120
    Housing Benefit 2 awarded £32 but due to being overpaid in 2004
    they are taking £30 per month off me and
    giving me 50p per week !! Owe them £1,255
    from when signed on

    Total In 1670
    total out 1168

    total left 502

    This has to feed and house the family (2 adults and 2 children (4&2).

    If you add the below

    Food etc 300
    Car tax/maintenance 30
    electric (pay meter) 120 (winter was a nightmare nearly £240)
    travel to work 100

    as you can see we are already in the minus

    there is no allowance for clothes, Birthdays, Xmas, fags, drink, treats, and more importantly emergencies for household goods etc.
  • lynzpower
    lynzpower Posts: 25,311 Forumite
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    Hi there
    For a start the first thing I would do is take some specialist advice as to whether the arrears that you are facing in respect iof your underpaid benefits ( ie council tax benefit) is attributable to you or to the local authority that was paying it at the time. YOu need to have catregorical evidence that YOU sohuld have been paying at that time when you were on JSA. This bit " Housing Benefit 2 awarded £32 but due to being overpaid in 2004they are taking £30 per month off me and
    giving me 50p per week !! Owe them £1,255 from when signed on" I just dont get it, why should you be paying for HB when you were on benefits at the time :confused:

    2) cancel sky, its pretty obvious at the moment, that you really cant afford it.

    3) I think you could cut down on your food shopping too, can you dso a storecupbards challenge?

    4) whats email - 4 ?

    5) any chance of bringing in extra money, only one of you working, co0uld you do some babysitting or an evening or weekend job?

    Lynz
    :beer: Well aint funny how its the little things in life that mean the most? Not where you live, the car you drive or the price tag on your clothes.
    Theres no dollar sign on piece of mind
    This Ive come to know...
    So if you agree have a drink with me, raise your glasses for a toast :beer:
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