Should i stay or should i go?

adrian_bond

thanks for this guys, youre really helping me make up my mind.

what kind of ammunition should i bring when i ask my boss for a pay rise? past projects, future projects, areas where i have excelled, areas where mistakes have been made and leassons learnt, new workload, cost saving to the company, higher profits, new product developemt etc? anything else?

these were a few ideas that i thought would be useful, but i dont want to take up hours (not to be big headed!) of my bosses time becasue its preciously tight as it is! what i really dont want to do is put him on the spot and demand more cash or threaten to leave; i want him to want me to work harder and get paid more becasue i deserve it! after all, it will be his boss who decides to veto it after all so ive got to come in woth some "buzzwords" that can be translated up to higher powers who appreciate fancy meaningless words!

however, i also dont want to get refused and feel compelled to look for another job becasue im sick of this one and feel more dejected cos im working harder for less pay!

nightmare. but it could be much much worse. i still know of a few that havent found a suitable job since xmas! i really should count myslef lucky i guess!

any opions or views very much appreciated. thanks guys

Adrian

ysatiss

I would definitely agree that staying and gaining experience with the view of going in 12/18 months is the best plan. With regards to payrise negociations, I'd always try to get your employer to give his figure first and work from there. From what you said in the original post he didn't mention a payrise which means he didn't say there wasn't one up for grabs. If you don't ask you don't get!
I'd go in with a plan of everything extra you will be taking on and ask him how much more he thinks you deserve for all this extra work. And then you can try and push him up. So for example, if he says he'll put you up to 24k, say you were thinking more along the lines of 26k, because of this that and the other. Hopefully, he'll come back with an offer somewhere in the middle.
I don't know what realistic wages are for that sort of job, so figures I've used are just an example. But don't go asking for something much higher than the market average.
As a rule of thumb, I would say you should ask for double the rise you want because most negotiations end up somewhere around the middle!

pinkshoes

In the meeting with your boss, just keep it simple. Highlight the extra work load, and what the other guy got paid. Have a few other things as back up if he's not convinced...

Also, if he's not willing to give lots of extra pay, get him to agree to training!! If you haven't already done it, get Solidworks training under your belt!