Too posh for dosh !!

bendix

littlemermaid wrote: »

So that's £2,984.20 after tax per month for an earner on £50k, before any extra child benefit etc...

As someone unemployed receiving £64.30 a week (I don't have kids, admittedly, don't want them!), I do feel their pain! Private school fees must cost a bomb these days...

You have completely missed the point.

nearlynew

Who needs money anyway when you've got "equity"?

littlemermaid_2

People on that much money shouldn't be receiving benefits - they don't need them. Some people, however, believe that they should - presumably because of all the other things the middle classes have to pay for. That do it? Or do people really think you can't survive on an MP style salary!

Whatever needs to happen with the benefit system, chucking money at people who don't need it should really be the first thing to go...

mbga9pgf

littlemermaid wrote: »

People on that much money shouldn't be receiving benefits - they don't need them. Some people, however, believe that they should - presumably because of all the other things the middle classes have to pay for. That do it? Or do people really think you can't survive on an MP style salary!

Whatever needs to happen with the benefit system, chucking money at people who don't need it should really be the first thing to go...

Do you mean like the hordes of children that are being borne by proles to give them more money for designer clothes and tabs?

Maximum child support for 2 kids MAX.

I have said it before and will say it again, how many skinny chav families have you seen? Until they start getting thinner, they can cut their benefits.

The_White_Horse

littlemermaid wrote: »

So that's £2,984.20 after tax per month for an earner on £50k, before any extra child benefit etc...

As someone unemployed receiving £64.30 a week (I don't have kids, admittedly, don't want them!), I do feel their pain! Private school fees must cost a bomb these days...

Ok, so lets take off 1500GBP a month for the mortgage (that you don't pay). Then lets take off 180GBP for council tax, (which you don't pay). Lets take off 100GBP for gas and elec and another 30 for water. Lets take off 20 for house insurance, Lets take off another 150 for general household bills and repairs. Lets take off 150 train fare to get to work - so far, 854 left a month - or 213 (and there are loads of things I have probably forgotten. So, you have 64.30 a week for yourself and this person may have 213 for maybe 4 people. I think you have it quite well for someone who does nothing, compared to than this person who works every day to support his family

nearlynew

mbga9pgf wrote: »

I have said it before and will say it again, how many skinny chav families have you seen? Until they start getting thinner, they can cut their benefits.

I've seen quite a few skinny, weasel looking ones.



How are they going to pay for their amphetemines?

PasturesNew

As an illustrative example, the woman on the Benefits Busting programme on the telly was getting:
- house paid for, council tax paid
- income support for herself
- child benefit (family allowance)

And then a huge CTC amount that took them into the realms of "could never ever get a job that paid that much". It's CTC/WTC that's pushed up the cost of living. As more money was pumped into the system, prices went up because it was there.

Only it wasn't there for all of us. Just for those with kids - the more the merrier.

Single people were turned into the new poor, but as we were out working flat out just to keep a roof over our heads we didn't have the time/clout to shout out and get pacified by the Govt with free cash.

They've used hard earned tax money so that the unwaged with children could buy stuff to keep them quiet.

What this also achieved was to grab full-time jobs, chop them up into 16-hours-a-week jobs, so that the Govt topped up lower incomes with tax money while reducing full-time jobs.

Take two people working 40 hours/week, chop up their job into chunks, hire as many 16-hour people as you need to cover the hours, with flexibility to get them to work extra on demand. Two people on the dole, lots of part-timers having their wages topped up with WTC. Taking two tax revenues away, creating several top ups to be paid out. Nuts.

Pobby

I was also surprised to see how much a family can earn and still receive child tax benefit. Again, I think the amount is way too much.

Perhaps they could introduce a scheme where self employed people like me can get back some of the tax they paid in the good years? Oh well, maybe not.

nearlynew

Spot on PasturesNew.

The_White_Horse

just stop all benefits, except a 6 month grace period for those that had been working, to find a new job. after that, nothing.

will be better for the country. the benefits will be a safety net and not a way of life.