This REALLY is the end of the World.....

chopperharris

incher wrote: »

As a subscriber of several years' standing, I am disappointed! It's the best toilet reading material there is - doesn't take up much room and has lots of articles of just the right length, depending on the state of your bowels on any given day.

I'm sad (possibly in more ways than one?)

buy a netbook , you can read !!!!!! and have one at the same time.

Bob_the_Saver

lostinrates wrote: »

I always wondered how it stayed going..it was only ever in medical waiting rooms as far as I know, apart from the occasional older person who took it. My granny liked it when she started to develop dementia: and she also then developed a taste for abridged novels for similar reasons.

Now we can liven up those waiting rooms, slip a copy of Playboy in between the copies of Woman's Own.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

lostinrates

lesley74 wrote: »

I quite like it to take on holiday, easy to carry, and usually take a while to read it, not like some other magazines you get which are full of pictures and adverts.

I'd have finished it before boarding the plane! In fact,one of my favourite indulgences is the 2 for 3 or 3 for four offers airside: so I can take my books on board. I buy a book for each day I'm expected to sit for a long time (travelling/beaching/pool). If my luggage is full/going to be too overwieght then the ones I love on holiday I post home to myself:o the rest I give away or if I know a friend wants them post it to them. Otherwise I try to buy books secondhand or through acedemic/interest book clubs, so to buy new boos purely for pleasure and indulgence is invariably the best part of a trip for me

bluey890

You are not a bear are you lir? I am bored and doing a bit of bear hunting tonight.
<edit: not in a gay sense>

lostinrates

bluey890 wrote: »

You are not a bear are you lir? I am bored and doing a bit of bear hunting tonight.
<edit: not in a gay sense>

I never quite know, tbh. I have in the past certainly identified more with some of the bear arguements: but less apocalyptically and with conflicting approach to the whole scenario. But then, I'm also looking at some pretty unbearish debt with property. I like lots of the bears lots. If it were a night out with bulls or bears only I'm pretty sure I'd choose the bears

In fact, if dopester still had a pm facility maybe I'd ask him to start a commune with us. (joke, dopester;) relax, its just you've mentioned less disapporval of land purhase for self sufficiency, and your doggy would like it. ). There are two properties we like ATM but both are about £200k over budget. I've just been tipped off to something before it hits open market so I'm going on a viewing there this week, I hope.

What I really am is a woman who really wants to unpack and get her stuff out of storage.

bluey890

lostinrates wrote: »

I never quite know, tbh. I have in the past certainly identified more with some of the bear arguements: but less apocalyptically and with conflicting approach to the whole scenario. But then, I'm also looking at some pretty unbearish debt with property. I like lots of the bears lots. If it were a night out with bulls or bears only I'm pretty sure I'd choose the bears

In fact, if dopester still had a pm facility maybe I'd ask him to start a commune with us. (joke, dopester;)). There are two properties we like ATM but both are about £200k over budget. I've just been tipped off to something before it hits open market so I'm going on a viewing there this week, I hope.

What I really am is a woman who really wants to unpack and get her stuff out of storage.

You are a bear. I probably should have guessed, most posters looking to buy their own home are.

Personally I find many of the bears post ideas, and when challenged, cry fail or feign ignorance (not you).
It happens time and time again on these forums.

You should perhaps revisit who you go for a night out with, many bears are uber tight, and wouldn't pay for a round.

lostinrates

bluey890 wrote: »

, many bears are uber tight, and wouldn't pay for a round.

then am I still a bear?

some of the bears here have many redeeming qualities so do some of the bulls. sadly there exist people on both sides of the fence who can't see the grey areas or that people with different experiences or even empathise with arguments for both sides of a debate. Its sad that my own (developing and changing all the time) opinions often conflict with my best interests. its interesting then to step into other shoes for a while. sadly few people provide really comfortable shoes.

its easy to get caught up in the shoes, not the walk.

bluey890

lostinrates wrote: »

then am I still a bear?

some of the bears here have many redeeming qualities so do some of the bulls.

I would say many of both the bulls and bears have redeeming qualities.

I had you in the non uber tight bear section, am I right?

bluey890

Not sure if you're writing a response. Have to go.
Got to be up early.

lostinrates

bluey890 wrote: »

I would say many of both the bulls and bears have redeeming qualities.

I had you in the non uber tight bear section, am I right?

Why so keen to pigeon hole? i would like to believe I am a one off, a centaur maybe? although I recognise that is unlikely and we are all complex creatures, very few pure bull or bear.

I think in any ways we are uber tight. we don't use heating at all and my groceries weektime cost ....well, at the moment a single figure number: there are after all apples on the trees atm.:o but then we also indulge in a way many people would consider extreme too. I'm fairly sure PN doesn't approve of my chmpagne and (admittedly cheapo) caviar supper at the weekend.:D

I do not like buying ''stuff'' with debt and I do not like not having money. I have always liked, not money exactly, nor the lifestyle of being monied, but the freedom of knowing i have choice. I think thats what drove me very hard to earn and work while studying. I hate watsefulness, not generosity which is glorius, but unthinking consumerism to own, not to appreciate or with the plan to replace.

I like to do without and end up with what I want than buy for ''in the mean time'' with an eye to replace. I think its a lot of this ''unthinking'' spending, whether cash paid for or debt fuelled, is counter productive and costs the person doing it more in fulfillment and happiness than it buys them. (although I recognise the short term boost it has given industry). Dh and I - we aspire to a lot, quite a greedy amount really, but we also have done, me less so of recent years, a lot to get to the point where we can dream quite big, and are prepared to continue sacrifices, like not being together week days. so far in life this has panned out well for us, we are happy, we are not impoverished and we have many options. we feel that though we have made many mistakes, and often made judgements which have not always been financially best those mistakes are easier for us than other options to us at the time. I think our starting point was also incredibly beneficial to us.

I still don't know really what I am: its not right to say I'm middle ground, because thats not representative of the life or financial options we take nor the views I hold.

ETA: and now I press send and you are gone, rofl