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NRP's Nil Assessment ...

Hi all

After months of wrangling through the Bolton Vortex. I recieved a letter from Dept for Social Development ( a new one on me!) stating that as a result of a change in circumstances, she must pay £0.00 per week, because she is getting a state benefit.

However, I thought that an NRP who is on Benefit must pay a nominal amount ( I think £10pw), can someone confirm that this is the case. She does have one night a week shared care.

I phoned Bolton, and was told that because she is on benefits, I will not be able to collect any arrears from her ... not even a nominal £1pw ... surely this can not be the case either? :confused:

Thanking you in advance for any advice.

Enemes
:wave:
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  • shell_542
    shell_542 Posts: 1,333 Forumite
    Is the NRP on CSA1 or CSA2?
    August GC 10th - 10th : £200 / £70.61
    NSD : 2/8
  • enemes
    enemes Posts: 909 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    shell_542 wrote: »
    Is the NRP on CSA1 or CSA2?


    Ooops ... sorry, meant to say it was CSA2

    Thanks
    :wave:
  • shell_542
    shell_542 Posts: 1,333 Forumite
    It appears to be correct ...

    Non-resident parents who pay the flat rate because they receive a benefit, pension or allowance will pay no child maintenance if they share the care of a qualifying child for at least 52 nights a year. Non-resident parents who pay the flat rate because they have net weekly income of £100 or less have no further reduction because of shared care and they continue to pay £5.

    Because the NRP has the child one night a week, that is 52 a year, they pay no maintenance. Hmmm ... lol
    August GC 10th - 10th : £200 / £70.61
    NSD : 2/8
  • skibadee
    skibadee Posts: 1,304 Forumite
    Wot a joke !!
  • Blonde_Bint
    Blonde_Bint Posts: 1,262 Forumite
    Skibadee, my sentiments exactly. Though if she had the child living with her she'd stop it staying over for the one night. you can just see it. ours is like that. the ducking and diving. lying left right and centre phoning social services that one bit her on the ar se after a while.
  • Blonde_Bint
    Blonde_Bint Posts: 1,262 Forumite
    Enemes, you have all my sympathy you really do, I said it before and i'll say it again F:mad::mad:K:mad:N typic:mad:l :mad:

    i've learnt a valuable lesson here today, those that try and do their best to do the right thing get done over. moral of the tale start as you mean to go on and join em:rotfl: I give up, I officially GIVE RIGHT UP :mad::mad::mad:

    Right thats it then, stuff her. Leave her to it, dont waste your time, dont waste your energy being mad its your blood pressure at stake not hers:p. dont ever ask her for anything again not even a bean, if she EVER gives anything its a bonus, and if I ever see a side of ham go past my bedroom window i'll let you know:rotfl: me bloods boiling and i'm not even sitting in that one.
  • LizzieS_2
    LizzieS_2 Posts: 2,948 Forumite
    shell_542 wrote: »
    It appears to be correct ...

    Non-resident parents who pay the flat rate because they receive a benefit, pension or allowance will pay no child maintenance if they share the care of a qualifying child for at least 52 nights a year. Non-resident parents who pay the flat rate because they have net weekly income of £100 or less have no further reduction because of shared care and they continue to pay £5.

    Because the NRP has the child one night a week, that is 52 a year, they pay no maintenance. Hmmm ... lol

    Agree that is correct.

    One of the problems here is that the benefit claimed is unknown. She could be on income support, or she could be working and claiming DLA (legal BTW).

    If she has another income of at least £100pw, you can apply for a variation to have this taken into account, but of course it is hard to know the truth with only a partial statement from the csa itself (this could give a positive contribution only if the income she gets is not means tested).
  • enemes
    enemes Posts: 909 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    LizzieS wrote: »
    , or she could be working and claiming DLA (legal BTW).

    Hi Lizzie ... Can I just clarify what you are saying here. If she manages to get DLA, and then returns to work (which, as you state is legit), she would only have to pay £5 per week, because she is effectively on benefits? Also, how would I know that she has returned to work? Apparently it is for her to tell the CSA or for me to find out for myself.
    :wave:
  • LizzieS_2
    LizzieS_2 Posts: 2,948 Forumite
    Check with Blob, but I'm pretty sure DLA is classed as a qualifying benefit for the £5 assessment (without variation application).

    She does have a legal obligation to tell the csa of any future employment if she has a DEO served previously. Not sure though if that would apply if the assessment is £5 due to DLA, ie it doesn't affect the basic assessment only variation application.

    Unless you have some form of contact directly or indirectly where you can get information, it is pretty much impossible to know what she does as Data Protection seems more important than supporting children sometimes.
  • enemes
    enemes Posts: 909 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    LizzieS wrote: »
    Unless you have some form of contact directly or indirectly where you can get information, it is pretty much impossible to know what she does as Data Protection seems more important than supporting children sometimes.

    Well said ... it is rediculous that people can hide behind the very legislation that was set up to protect individuals ... at the cost of their childrens' well-being.

    I would have thought it would be easy for me to tell the CSA every few weeks that she is working, so they can do a search on her, wether she is or not. Eventually they must be able to find her through PAYE.

    Why should I pry into her life to find out if and where she might be working, like I have nothing better to do with my time or what?

    Am I allowed to say !!!!s, or !!!!!, or !!!! faces on this site, I wonder?
    :wave:
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