17 year old and tax whilst in full time education

mighty_rhinos

Hi all,

My son is 17 and remaining in full time education for foreseeable future. He has just done a day's work for a shop during their sale weekend. They have paid him for his day and now sent him his P45 as it was just temporary work.

It didn't register with me at time, but he was taxed on his 1 day's work. Should he have completed a tax form at start to advise he was in education, or is this irrelevant? Is it simply a case of him waiting til tax year end and claiming a rebate as any normal tax-payer? I do not see him earning in excess of an allowance this year, (a) due to educational commitments, and (b) lack of jobs in small town at present!

Any advice appreciated, or pointers for correct tax form. Thanks :rotfl:

Valli

Like anyone else he has a tax allowance - should be 647L
hang on - wandering off to check
yes
£6475
so he is entitled to earn less than that ^ and not pay tax.
If he doesn't earn any more money before the end of the tax year he'll get a refund. The fact that he's in education is irrelevant but he does have a tax allowance.
Check my link above...
Whether he can claim a refund of tax paid now, having been given a P45 I'm not sure, but someone will be along in a bit who knows more than me!

Lokolo

There is no form to say "In education, don't tax me", as it doesn't exist...

However you can claim back the tax, however if he is likely to get another job between now and April next year theres no point. It will complicate things.

If he wants the tax refund (only gets income tax back, not National Insurance), then if he sends P45, and a covering letter to local tax office they will send hims a cheque, but I prefer to wait until April and get an Easter bonus.

JimmyTheWig

Did there used to be a form that you can sign to say that you were in full-time education and unlikely to earn above the threshold that tax year - in which case you weren't taxed?

CLAPTON

For a first job he should complete a P46 and say he has no previous earning.. i.e. tick box 'A'

the company should put him on an emergency code of 647L M1 (or similar): ..on this he would have paid no tax

however lots of companies get it wrong and put people on BR which taxes him at 20%

What tax code is on the P45?

Lokolo

JimmyTheWig wrote: »

Did there used to be a form that you can sign to say that you were in full-time education and unlikely to earn above the threshold that tax year - in which case you weren't taxed?

There is one form that I know of but its got strict guidelines:

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/students/work_hols_while_student_8_1.htm

i..e summer jobs crap.

JimmyTheWig

Lokolo wrote: »

There is one form that I know of...

Yes, that's the one I used to fill out for holiday work. Thanks.

trevormax

There is a form called a P50 meant for people who have left work and do not intend to start working again (or claim JSA) for at least 4 weeks. Your son can fill it in to claim tax back without having to wait till the end of the tax year.

However, if he intends to start working anytime soon or claim JSA (in the next 8 weeks say), then there is no point as the new employer or JSA will probably sort things out faster than HMRC will at the moment.

Link - http://search2.hmrc.gov.uk/kbroker/hmrc/forms/viewform.jsp?formId=764