Fears council tax could rise because local government pensions 'are too generous'

avantra

So the Torygraph said.
Averages: £300/pa from an average household. Look steep to me considering I am 39 and between four pensions I have a very very small sum indeed :mad::eek:

CLAPTON

It is posible to argue that council tax payers have to pay 300 per annum but it can be equally honestly said that they pay nothing and it comes from central government taxes... we don't really have hypochecated taxation in the UK (except in the Telegraph of course)

chopperharris

and we wonder why less and less people are being employed by councils , and more and more are being sub-c'd.

ad9898_3

Another nettle that the current government have no spine to get a grasp of. Public sector workers will almost certainly have to face the prospect of living in reality sooner or later, which is the 'reality' that the private sector live in.

Again don't expect this situation to be addressed until after the election.:rolleyes:

StevieJ

ad9898 wrote: »

Another nettle that the current government have no spine to get a grasp of. Public sector workers will almost certainly have to face the prospect of living in reality sooner or later, which is the 'reality' that the private sector live in.

Again don't expect this situation to be addressed until after the election.:rolleyes:

Should be a neat addition to the Tory party manifesto

LizzieS_2

avantra wrote: »

So the Torygraph said.
Averages: £300/pa from an average household. Look steep to me considering I am 39 and between four pensions I have a very very small sum indeed :mad::eek:

Oh dear they forgot to mention that employee contributions can be adjusted upwards too.

Public sector pensions do include employers contributions from taxation of Joe Public, but many private sector pensions have employer pension contributions effectively added to the price of the product Joe Public buys. The difference between the 2 is the private sector is choosing profit for shareholders above their own staff pensions.

Graham_Devon

ad9898 wrote: »

Another nettle that the current government have no spine to get a grasp of. Public sector workers will almost certainly have to face the prospect of living in reality sooner or later, which is the 'reality' that the private sector live in.

Again don't expect this situation to be addressed until after the election.:rolleyes:

I think they are living in reality. Just the pension is / was still quite good.

Everything else for most public sector workers left them on an uneven footing compared to private workers.

themanbearpig

Transfering of wealth from young to old is all high house prices do, and exactly what these high pensions are doing too.

andykn

ad9898 wrote: »

Another nettle that the current government have no spine to get a grasp of. Public sector workers will almost certainly have to face the prospect of living in reality sooner or later, which is the 'reality' that the private sector live in.

Again don't expect this situation to be addressed until after the election.:rolleyes:

And remind us what the last Govt did about it in the 18 years when life expectancy really rose beyond what stockmarket growth could sustain on it's own.

Yes, this Govt should have done more, but it was one helluva "hospital pass" by the tories.

andykn

avantra wrote: »

So the Torygraph said.
Averages: £300/pa from an average household. Look steep to me considering I am 39 and between four pensions I have a very very small sum indeed :mad::eek:

But were you contributing 6% of your earnings like most local govt and NHS employees have to?

Generali

Local Government pensions are pretty much fully funded. that's why they're expensive. Pensions cost a lot of money when the life expectancy for someone on retirement is 17 or 19 years (m/f).

Civil service pensions are completely unfunded and so are incredibly cheap until you come to pay them.