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Platypus13
Platypus13 Posts: 6 Forumite
edited 8 August 2009 at 11:04AM in Debt-free wannabe
Hi everyone, I'm an MSE virgin - here goes...

I have debts of roughly £6000 from when I was a student. An overdraft with Barclays has been passed to 1st Credit as a lump sum and a mistake on a loan agreement has meant that I have ended up with an outstanding loan becoming a lump sum, non-credit debt. As it stands, none of my debts are increasing the longer I wait before getting round to negotiating with my creditors.

I have lived in shared houses for a good few years now and have moved around a lot. I'm not on the electoral role and yet within a few months of moving debt-collectors letters start arriving without fail. I can't think of any legal way for them to have found me.

My plan is to set up a savings account and pay in the amount I could afford to my creditors each month. This way at least I'll make some interest on my money before paying off my debts in one lump payment. However, I am currently receiving a wave of letters (at least 3 a week - how did they get my address?!) and phonecalls (at least one, sometimes two, a day). I have not replied or answered once, as I have no idea where I stand and I know debt-collector call centre agents to be very aggressive.

Can anybody let me know if I can continue to follow my plan or if real legal action will be taken before I reach my goal. Basically I need advice of some/any kind!

Thanks in advance!
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  • AMG2B
    AMG2B Posts: 83 Forumite
    Hi Platypus, I'm afraid I'm not an expert on these things, but I know that everyone will suggest that you fill in a SOA (see the stickies at the top of the thread) so that people can suggest ways of saving additional money to throw at your debts :)
    Everything will be ok in the end, if everything's not ok then it's not the end :)
  • Part of my problem is that I travel and incur a lot of expenses through work and so need to leave myself a float each month but I'll take a look - thanks.
  • angelicmary85
    angelicmary85 Posts: 4,977 Forumite
    Hi Platypus and welcome MSE!

    As suggested, post up your SOA. Then, the fab guys and gals here will rip it apart in order to save you a few quid!

    You need to add everything onto your SOA so we can get a better understanding of exactly what is going on with your account!

    Also, you can join in with the other threads on the board to up your income and you could join us on the payment a day thread (or PAD) which is a really friendly thread and really motivational (but highly addictive!)

    Best of luck with your debt free journey x
    Started PADdin' 13/04/09 paid £7486.66 - CC free 02/11/10
    Aim for 2011 - pay off car loan £260.00 saved
    Nerd No. 1173! :j
    Made by God...Improved by the The Devil :D
  • Well, here's my first stab!

    Statement of Affairs and Personal Balance Sheet

    Household Information

    Number of adults in household........... 1
    Number of children in household......... 0
    Number of cars owned.................... 0

    Monthly Income Details

    Monthly income after tax................ 1100
    Partners monthly income after tax....... 0
    Benefits................................ 0
    Other income............................ 0
    Total monthly income.................... 1100


    Monthly Expense Details

    Mortgage................................ 0
    Secured/HP loan repayments.............. 0
    Rent.................................... 300
    Management charge (leasehold property).. 0
    Council tax............................. 20
    Electricity............................. 20
    Gas..................................... 20
    Oil..................................... 0
    Water rates............................. 10
    Telephone (land line)................... 20
    Mobile phone............................ 40
    TV Licence.............................. 0
    Satellite/Cable TV...................... 0
    Internet Services....................... 0
    Groceries etc. ......................... 150
    Clothing................................ 40
    Petrol/diesel........................... 0
    Road tax................................ 0
    Car Insurance........................... 0
    Car maintenance (including MOT)......... 0
    Car parking............................. 0
    Other travel............................ 0
    Childcare/nursery....................... 0
    Other child related expenses............ 0
    Medical (prescriptions, dentist etc).... 0
    Pet insurance/vet bills................. 0
    Buildings insurance..................... 0
    Contents insurance...................... 0
    Life assurance ......................... 0
    Other insurance......................... 0
    Presents (birthday, christmas etc)...... 0
    Haircuts................................ 0
    Entertainment........................... 150
    Holiday................................. 0
    Emergency fund.......................... 0
    Float for work expenses................. 200
    Total monthly expenses.................. 970



    Assets

    Cash.................................... 0
    House value (Gross)..................... 0
    Shares and bonds........................ 0
    Car(s).................................. 0
    Other assets............................ 0
    Total Assets............................ 0


    No Secured nor Hire Purchase Debts


    Unsecured Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    1st Credit (lump sum)..........3500......0.........0
    Co-op (lump sum)...............2600......0.........0
    Catalogue (lump sum)...........400.......0.........0
    Total unsecured debts..........6500......0.........-



    Monthly Budget Summary

    Total monthly income.................... 1,100
    Expenses (including HP & secured debts). 970
    Available for debt repayments........... 130
    Monthly UNsecured debt repayments....... 0
    Amount left after debt repayments....... 130


    Personal Balance Sheet Summary
    Total assets (things you own)........... 0
    Total HP & Secured debt................. -0
    Total Unsecured debt.................... -6,500
    Net Assets.............................. -6,500


    Hack away!!

    I live in a shared house but I'm single, so I've indicated myself as a household of one.
  • angelicmary85
    angelicmary85 Posts: 4,977 Forumite
    Platypus13 wrote: »
    Well, here's my first stab!

    Statement of Affairs and Personal Balance Sheet

    Household Information
    Number of adults in household........... 1
    Number of children in household......... 0
    Number of cars owned.................... 0

    Monthly Income Details
    Monthly income after tax................ 1100
    Partners monthly income after tax....... 0
    Benefits................................ 0
    Other income............................ 0
    Total monthly income.................... 1100

    Monthly Expense Details
    Mortgage................................ 0
    Secured/HP loan repayments.............. 0
    Rent.................................... 300
    Management charge (leasehold property).. 0
    Council tax............................. 20
    Electricity............................. 20
    Gas..................................... 20
    Oil..................................... 0
    Water rates............................. 10
    Telephone (land line)................... 20 Is this just for you or a shared bill?
    Mobile phone............................ 40 Could you get a cheaper tarriff or go PAYG?
    TV Licence.............................. 0 Why don't you pay this?
    Satellite/Cable TV...................... 0
    Internet Services....................... 0
    Groceries etc. ......................... 150 This is high if it's just for you - look at the old style board for ways to cut this down
    Clothing................................ 40 Every month? Maybe just buy essentail things.
    Petrol/diesel........................... 0
    Road tax................................ 0
    Car Insurance........................... 0
    Car maintenance (including MOT)......... 0
    Car parking............................. 0
    Other travel............................ 0
    Childcare/nursery....................... 0
    Other child related expenses............ 0
    Medical (prescriptions, dentist etc).... 0
    Pet insurance/vet bills................. 0
    Buildings insurance..................... 0
    Contents insurance...................... 0
    Life assurance ......................... 0
    Other insurance......................... 0
    Presents (birthday, christmas etc)...... 0
    Haircuts................................ 0
    Entertainment........................... 150 Do you really have to spend this??
    Holiday................................. 0
    Emergency fund.......................... 0
    Float for work expenses................. 200
    Total monthly expenses.................. 970


    Assets
    Cash.................................... 0
    House value (Gross)..................... 0
    Shares and bonds........................ 0
    Car(s).................................. 0
    Other assets............................ 0
    Total Assets............................ 0

    No Secured nor Hire Purchase Debts

    Unsecured Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    1st Credit (lump sum)..........3500......0.........0
    Co-op (lump sum)...............2600......0.........0
    Catalogue (lump sum)...........400.......0.........0
    Total unsecured debts..........6500......0.........-


    Monthly Budget Summary
    Total monthly income.................... 1,100
    Expenses (including HP & secured debts). 970
    Available for debt repayments........... 130
    Monthly UNsecured debt repayments....... 0
    Amount left after debt repayments....... 130

    Personal Balance Sheet Summary
    Total assets (things you own)........... 0
    Total HP & Secured debt................. -0
    Total Unsecured debt.................... -6,500
    Net Assets.............................. -6,500

    Hack away!!

    I live in a shared house but I'm single, so I've indicated myself as a household of one.


    Made a few comments in red.

    Try keeping a spending diary to see where your money is going and then stop spending it! :D

    I'm not sure if it's too late or not (not an expert at sorting out creditors!) but could you try to send them letters offering token payments?
    Started PADdin' 13/04/09 paid £7486.66 - CC free 02/11/10
    Aim for 2011 - pay off car loan £260.00 saved
    Nerd No. 1173! :j
    Made by God...Improved by the The Devil :D
  • Ah yes - the entertainment budget... :D Honestly, I'd like to be able to spend more on it! I'm only mid-twenties and would love to be able to keep a semblance of a social life but if needs must I'd honestly try to cut back in other areas first.

    The clothing budget is what I'd LIKE to spend but I guess I can "charity shop" it! Just like old times.

    The amounts for bills are the share that I pay of the total house bills and the TV license is included amongst that. I am constantly turning lights off in unoccupid rooms and turning the heating down in winter but with four people sharing it's difficult to really curtail wastage.
  • theoretica
    theoretica Posts: 12,691 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    I don't understand your float being something you spend each month. From your words I understood it as being money you wanted to keep in your bank, and if spent can't you reclaim it from work? If that is so it would be better under assets not monthly spending.
    But a banker, engaged at enormous expense,
    Had the whole of their cash in his care.
    Lewis Carroll
  • angelicmary85
    angelicmary85 Posts: 4,977 Forumite
    Platypus13 wrote: »
    Ah yes - the entertainment budget... :D Honestly, I'd like to be able to spend more on it! I'm only mid-twenties and would love to be able to keep a semblance of a social life but if needs must I'd honestly try to cut back in other areas first.

    The clothing budget is what I'd LIKE to spend but I guess I can "charity shop" it! Just like old times.

    The amounts for bills are the share that I pay of the total house bills and the TV license is included amongst that. I am constantly turning lights off in unoccupid rooms and turning the heating down in winter but with four people sharing it's difficult to really curtail wastage.


    I'm only 23 but don't spend that much on entertainment!!

    So if you'd like to spend 40quid on clothes, I'm guessing that you don't already do so which means that you've also got that 'spare' aswel?
    Started PADdin' 13/04/09 paid £7486.66 - CC free 02/11/10
    Aim for 2011 - pay off car loan £260.00 saved
    Nerd No. 1173! :j
    Made by God...Improved by the The Devil :D
  • Fire_Fox
    Fire_Fox Posts: 26,026 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    I'd be inclined to access your credit reports - Experian, Equifax - and see how things stand: I would imagine this is how your creditors are (legally) learning of your whereabouts. If you have debt collectors chasing you I find it hard to believe that your debts are not incurring interest and late charges - usually interest is only frozen when you go onto a Debt Management Plan or similar.
    Declutterbug-in-progress.⭐️⭐️⭐️ ⭐️⭐️
  • Theoretica - I considered putting my float in assets but when I see that word I immediately see the word 'seized' after it. It's absolutely essential that I have that money to do my work. Sometimes I spend more (hotelrooms etc) and sometimes less.

    angelicmary - maybe I'm not as angelic as I should be. I live in a city and any kind of socialising/entertainment unfortunately costs. I can only try to be more parsimonious (spelling?) and reign it in. Maybe I'm not creative enough with my ideas of fun for free.

    Fire Fox - My debts are definitely not incurring interest, this I have checked.
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