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CSA Want to send me to court

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  • jando
    jando Posts: 20 Forumite
    pd001 wrote: »
    Who is your MP? Is your MP a labour MP by any chance?

    Labour s-o-t
  • jando
    jando Posts: 20 Forumite
    Blob wrote: »
    Hi Jando

    The Court Date you are talking about, what is it for? If it is the CSA that are taking you to Court then when they have put the papers in you will be told.

    If it is for a Form N 245 they will have to send the papers out and wait for the answers so pos 3 to 4 weeks, but it depends. Though once the Court has sent out the papers eveything else will have to stop untill the case is heard.

    JSA is Job Seekers Allowance.

    I had a letter which is Notice of intention to apply for a liability order ,
    I am not on jsa then i work full time, but on minimum wages.
  • pd001
    pd001 Posts: 871 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    jando wrote: »
    The letter i had from them states that i can pay my debt in full within the next 7 days and can pay by credit or debit card over the phone ( there having a laugh )

    Can you please post the exact text that the csa have used in their letter to you, leaving out your personal stuff of course
  • jando
    jando Posts: 20 Forumite
    I thought that if you were self employed as i was and was not earning enough to pay csa, then until that time that you were in employment you would start paying from then. I was self employed up until 11 years ago, i was not earning enough to pay csa, I was sent to court ,was told by the judge i had to pay or have my lively hood taken away, that ment prison, i went into a deep depresion for a while didnt pay anything, didn't care what happened to me, didn't work almost lost my home. I managed to pull myself out of it with help, i got a job in 1998, since then the csa have come at me with this for back payment from 1994 / 2005. For those of you who thought the same as i did Beware learn from my lesson,I certainly am.
  • blimey40
    blimey40 Posts: 573 Forumite
    edited 5 August 2009 at 12:25AM
    Very similar situation to myself, my daughter is 24 this year.

    I don't know if they wrote to you between 1998 and 2005, but in my case they didn't. Its imperative you counter them and the first thing I suggest is asking for all the information they have on you and you do this by way of Data Protection ACT, they have to post to you all your files.

    I did this in March with help from a solicitor (you don't need a lawyer to get your files), I have heard absoutely nothing since a letter we wrote to them in April this year and its now August. They have so much wrong information that I actually wish it goes to court, as they would not have a leg to stand on.

    The DEO is a problem and having a fixed abode will also mean they will go down the baliff route. Do everything in writing and above all don't be scared, thats what they want. It freightens many people to paying beyond there means and keeping to this 2 year steer which has no legality in a court of law. In many cases the court see the lack of correspondance by the CSA and they tend to give more suitable terms to repay the debt, if the CSA themselves have not acted on a consistent basis and kept regular contact with you. Your case obviously ended in 2005 or 2006? In my case, they sent first documentation in June 2008 when My daughter was 22

    I am self-employed, but paid my child for a number of years personally which I can prove if it goes any further. I suspect my debt is simply suspendid until I go on DEO as the figure I saw from the Data Protection files stands at just over £4,000, they have not acted upon it as yet.

    good luck
  • Blob
    Blob Posts: 1,011 Forumite
    blimey40 By the sound of it your falls into the historic debt and is therefor not a priority.

    They go after the ones that are active [so the money goes to the gov!] and have children of an age that is relevent. Thatis what I have been told how true that is, who knows, for sure they dont!
  • blimey40
    blimey40 Posts: 573 Forumite
    Sure, but this guy has an historic debt and seems he is being chased. Agree, historic debt was pushed 12-18 months ago, it seemed a way for the theiving so and so's to accumlate huge amounts and try to balance the books to make it look as if they were financially viable and it certainly helped for a while. Onus, now is making sure more recent debt is up to date and being paid
  • jando
    jando Posts: 20 Forumite
    pd001 wrote: »
    Can you please post the exact text that the csa have used in their letter to you, leaving out your personal stuff of course

    www.csa.gov.uk

    child support agency



    Notice of intention to apply for a liability order
    Because you have a child maintenance debt we are now taking legal action to recover what you owe.






    A Liability Order is a legal order recognising that there is debt to be paid. If the Magistrates' Court grants the Liability Order, the Child Support Agency can then use enforcement cc.vers under the Child Support Act 1991 to recover what you owe, Including the seizure of gooes by bailiffs,
    Please note: this is a statutory notice issued prior to court proceedings being started. The only way an application for these proceedings can be stopped is to call within the next seven days (28 days if you do not live in the United Kingdom ) and to pay your debt in full - you can pay by credit and debit card over the telephone.


    This is part of the letter.:confused:



    CSF391(A)








    Please turn over
    June 2008
  • pd001
    pd001 Posts: 871 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    jando wrote: »
    www.csa.gov.uk

    child support agency



    Notice of intention to apply for a liability order
    Because you have a child maintenance debt we are now taking legal action to recover what you owe.






    A Liability Order is a legal order recognising that there is debt to be paid. If the Magistrates' Court grants the Liability Order, the Child Support Agency can then use enforcement cc.vers under the Child Support Act 1991 to recover what you owe, Including the seizure of gooes by bailiffs,
    Please note: this is a statutory notice issued prior to court proceedings being started. The only way an application for these proceedings can be stopped is to call within the next seven days (28 days if you do not live in the United Kingdom ) and to pay your debt in full - you can pay by credit and debit card over the telephone.


    This is part of the letter.:confused:

    Please turn over
    June 2008

    Many people on here have had that suggestion over the phone and you are certainly the first I have heard of that has had it in writing

  • CMAC_2
    CMAC_2 Posts: 187 Forumite
    pd001 wrote: »
    Many people on here have had that suggestion over the phone and you are certainly the first I have heard of that has had it in writing

    This is on most of the Commissions letters.
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