Stopping the old and starting the new

Dancing_Shoes

I wonder if anyone could point me in the right direction of finding out when the nrp stops paying a court order when the csa take over?

seroxat_chick

You have to wait at least one year and one day from when the court order was issued before the CSA will open a case for you.

Once you contact the CSA, they'll ask you to send them the court order, if sufficient time has elapsed from its issue, and the CSA overrides whatever the court order stated. They contact the court that issued the order and advise them that they're now involved.

Dancing_Shoes

Yes thats fine sufficiant time has passed. We have been told that they apply to the court and give the court 2 months and 1 days notice to take it over, is this correct?
I have heard lots of horror stories of people paying twice....
We know that the csa backdate their calculations to the day they speak to the nrp but as they are giving notice to the court is it different or do we stop paying when they make contact

Donedoingdebt

Wouldn't it be easier for you to cancel the court order yourself & then apply to the CSA on the same day?

You can get a rough idea of what your assessment should be using the CSA's online calculator, so you can put this money aside to cover the arrears that will build up whilst the assessment is being carried out.

Dancing_Shoes

Apparently when the csa take on a court order they have to give notice to the court so they don't actually take it over for 2 months and a day so i think the court order still runs????
We know how much we will have to pay and it is considerably less but from the words of the assessor "thats a risk that alot of pwc take":rolleyes:

We are more than happy to do it via the csa, there is no point in us setting up a case as she has already done this

seroxat_chick

Just thought I would clarify this situation as I now have new information that may be of use to people.

When I first contacted the CSA, I was told that one year and one day had to have elapsed from the date the consent order was issued by the court for the CSA to take over for me.

As this was the case for me, I had to send in my consent order to the CSA for them to contact the court and inform them that they were now taking over.

One month after this, I received a decision letter from the CSA saying that I was to receive X amount per week from my ex, starting on September 10th.

As I received no money yesterday, I called the CSA, who informed me that I do have to wait two months and two days from when I sent in the consent order before they are allowed to take the case on for me.

When I asked why/how I had a decision letter in front of me, the chap said that "that's a mystery" :rolleyes:

Apparently, they haven't even contacted my ex yet!!!! Unbelievable.

Dancing_Shoes

Yes that is right. You should normally get your assessment before it starts this is to let you know what it will be. The only thing I would be concerned about is you say they haven't contacted the nrp so how have they come to the assessment?
Another thing to bare in mind is that alot of court orders are payable in advance and the csa is payable in arrears so most pwc that transfer from court order to csa are effectively going to go without money for a month (or a much lesser figure) unless you have an nrp who is happy to pay without obligation.

seroxat_chick

Dancing_Shoes wrote: »

Yes that is right. You should normally get your assessment before it starts this is to let you know what it will be. The only thing I would be concerned about is you say they haven't contacted the nrp so how have they come to the assessment?
Another thing to bare in mind is that alot of court orders are payable in advance and the csa is payable in arrears so most pwc that transfer from court order to csa are effectively going to go without money for a month (or a much lesser figure) unless you have an nrp who is happy to pay without obligation.

Yes, both I and the CSA chap were flummoxed as to how I'd managed to get an assessment letter without the NRP being contacted!

I haven't had any money for over a year (hence me contacting the CSA, which was a last resort) so there are no issues regarding your last sentence.

Dancing_Shoes

That is awful!!!
Have you pursued this via the court?

seroxat_chick

Dancing_Shoes wrote: »

That is awful!!!
Have you pursued this via the court?

No, I didn't.

For quite a while, I didn't have an address for him (which was an essential piece of information if I wanted to pursue him through the court for breaking the consent order).

When he stopped paying, it meant I was eligible for Income Support, so I've been claiming that, but it's soon to stop now my youngest is 12. The IS was actually more than the NRP was paying me, and as long as I had some money, that was the main thing (it also made life a lot easier [quieter] claiming money this way).

I do work, but not many hours, and I had a serious illness three years ago which further complicates my work situation :rolleyes: