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CCA ,s taken to court ???

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  • longshot
    longshot Posts: 106 Forumite
    blueback - i see how it's possible now, you didn't let onto the
    fact you'd had a charging order for over 3 years.

    I agree well done this is the law.

    I think you were partly lucky due to the fact property prices

    are very low at the moment, if it was different i think they probably would

    chase the debt.

    Out of interest when they placed the charging order on your property

    was it for the full amount of your debt? 15k was it?
  • tyllwyd
    tyllwyd Posts: 5,496 Forumite
    So what happens to the original 15K debt? Has that gone, or does the debt still exist even though you were able to sidestep the charging order/restriction?
  • blueback
    blueback Posts: 78 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    No the debt doesnt go away it just means you pay them back on your terms, not theirs and you have the freedom of selling the house and hanging on to your equity.

    Then you ensure that you legally dispose of your assets and rent somewhere. Once you have no assets there is no logical reason to spend money on chasing a debt that they will not get back and they also dont go the bankruptcy route because that also costs them.

    Once you realise that you can live better without credit and as a result are relaxed about the worst that can happen and BR is irrelevant if you live within your means, you can sit back and make paper aeroplanes with the DCA letters and when you get fed up with that, you CCA them and it all stops a couple of weeks later.

    In this case the agreement was unenforcable anyway (didnt know about executable CCAs at the time of going to court) so they're not getting anything and never will.
  • longshot wrote: »
    blueback - i see how it's possible now, you didn't let onto the
    fact you'd had a charging order for over 3 years.

    Out of interest when they placed the charging order on your property

    was it for the full amount of your debt? 15k was it?
    There is a BIG difference between a Charging Order and a Restriction. It was NOT a Charging Order attached. It was a Restriction. Please read the whole content and not what you wish to understand.
    blueback wrote: »
    So I have found the answer, if the house is in joint names they can only register a restriction, not a charge.
    Nick Smith
    Property value: £97,500. Owe £20,000 on it and pay just £245 a month. Savings: Minimum target is £300 a month. Debt: Nil except for mortgage. Holidays abroad: Minimum 4 a year.
  • FirstTimer4Me
    FirstTimer4Me Posts: 1,079 Forumite
    There is a BIG difference between a Charging Order and a Restriction. It was NOT a Charging Order attached. It was a Restriction.
    no wonder i'm confused :confused: going by this post and the other one i've just posted on.

    i must try and get some sleep

    night
  • blueback
    blueback Posts: 78 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    This is taken directly from the Land Registry website. Please note the last paragraph.

    Quote:

    John and William Smith own a
    hardware store in Gloucester.
    One of their customers, Mr
    Brown, has failed to pay for
    goods supplied to him.
    To protect their interest, John
    and William have obtained a
    charging order against Mr
    Brown’s beneficial interest in 55
    High Street, Stroud which he
    owns jointly with his wife.
    They have applied on form RX1
    for the following form K *
    restriction to be entered on
    Mr and Mrs Brown’s register:
    “RESTRICTION: No disposition
    of the registered estate is to be
    registered without a certificate
    signed by the applicant for
    registration or his conveyancer
    that written notice of the
    disposition was given to John
    Smith and William Smith at Unit
    24 London Road, Gloucester
    GL4 5VN, being the person with
    the benefit of an interim
    charging order on the beneficial
    interest of George Brown made
    by Gloucester County Court on
    15 November 2004 (Court
    reference GL/346).”
    This restriction means that no
    disposition of 55 High Street
    can be registered without notice
    first being served on John and
    William Smith which will give
    them the opportunity to recover
    the debt owed by Mr Brown.

    There is a big difference between given the opportunity and securing the debt, dont you think?

    Hope this helps

    http://www1.landregistry.gov.uk/assets/library/documents/educ_fact_5_131205.pdf
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