Has any body heard of AIRNERGY

mcoppel

I have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and am looking for one of these second hand, if anyone has one or knows of one please, please let me know.

mr_rush

A lot of people posting here for first time - very dodgy.

All I can say is look at NICE or British Thoracic Guidelines (BTS): this quackery doesn't feature anywhere.

That's because it doesn't work and only preys on people's fears. Please don't waste your money on this nonsense.

cutemax

Yes i've had one 10 weeks and no improvement yet although i've been adviced to wait at least 3 months to feel a difference. So far i'm very dissapointed. have COPD and RA.I use it 3-5 times every single day even took it on holiday. I have the Airnergy + profesional costing £4.650.

giantmutantbroccoli

I suspect very strongly that all the claims of health benefits that originate from real people are down to the placebo effect, because the science behind this ridiculous thing does not stand up. Oxygen is oxygen, unless it's ozone. There is no magical energized oxygen that your body absorbs more effectively. I think, from the scatty explanations they give that what it does is generate ozone. Normal oxygen is in the form of O2, two oxygen atoms stuck together. That's the oxygen you take out of the air to breathe. Ozone is in the form of O3, that's three oxygen atoms stuck together. Ozone is not as stable, and readily breaks down into O2 (which you can breathe) and single, free oxygen - free radicals, basically. Now the presence of free radicals does indeed stimulate the production of enzymes that can indirectly offer some protection against things that cause cancer. The things that cause cancer however are the free radicals! That's like setting fire to a building so the sprinklers will come on, in order to protect yourself against fire.


Here's a study they've apparently had done to test it's effectiveness in treating neurological illnesses:

http://www.biolifesolutions.co.uk/news.aspx?ItemID=dc43bb8d-5bf4-4a9e-b0ee-5f3b2a75e611

Conclusion:
The results permit the (provisional) conclusion that inhaling energised air may, firstly, bring about a marked improvement in the subjective state of health and, secondly, lead to a tendency for arterial blood pressure to fall in neurological patients.

A translation for the non-science inclined:

People may feel better or healthier in general after using this machine, but this is most likely due to the placebo effect. Basically if you believe something will make you feel better, then it will - a bit. People showed a lower blood pressure, indicating a reduction in stress, but that's a psychological effect - there is NO evidence of any physical effect.

Meditation has the same effect, and it's a hell of a lot cheaper. Steer well clear of this psuedo-scientific garbage.

De_dude

frosty wrote: »

De dude,did you loan a machine from somewhere?
I would love to try one to see if it works before I buy one,I have been trying to find a company that loans them out.Which machine did you use? They said the 5 unit is the best one.

It depends on where you are, there is a woman in Ipswich with one, she seems very nice, about £15 for half an hour, another one in Muswell Hill at £30 for twenty minutes, the Ipswich girl refers to that as a rip off, sorry I was missing but the site never emailed me to say I had a reply.There are, I believe some in the north of England in some Gym or Health club. My neighbour bought one after using the Muswell hill one twice, the first time he uised it he woke up with a clear head for the first time in years, schizophrenia plus alcoholism and he is very unmanageable. It has changed him a lot, not all for the better. He is easily messed up but it definately works for him. I haven't used it for two months and have permanent sores above my lip in the mousetache area, it is an absolute pain but I don't go to his house anymore, on principle. So yeah, it clears your head, as it did for my old man , problem is, he is often an obnoxious !!!!!! now as I stand up to his 86 year old games, he accuses me of having being a very difficult child , I counter this by asking him if beating a child with doubled up cooker cable for an hour and a half is acceptable.The more I understand what was done to me the more nasty he gets, to try and shut me up. That wont be happening, If you saw what I've written, burn your eyes, he's a pillar of the doubly standardised community I come from but they are all the same. It also transpires that if I don't ride I do get a lot of extra energy but the sores disappeared when the neighbour got the machine and returned after I stopped using it, also the riding was finished , more or less for the season.I have purposely not ridden for four weeks up to today, first time since first using the Airnergy in May this year. I cant shave without a terrible mess being left behind, now I shave every time I start looking homeless, there is a point where you look awful, after two weeks, before and after you are fine

The machine is the £3665 one and it often arrives within two working days. I have the details somewhere but cant find them, it is the mid range one.

There is a guy in Ireland who tried it and his asthma(chronic) was cured so he started some charity shops in Offaly to buy more and my dad contacted him and there was one not being used, just six miles away from our house in Galway. His voice became noticeably clearer and the mind sharper and nastier. I haven't spoken to him since May and don't intend to, but he apparently only uses it three times a week now.

It is pretty obvious to me now, anecdotaly, that it does clear brain fog quite well in all cases I have seen or heard.

The Valkion(family video on youtube) machine is the same, I think also a machine called eng3?I hope this helps, if I rambled , then I congratulate that part of me that couldn't give a ****.

De_dude

mr_rush wrote: »

A lot of people posting here for first time - very dodgy.

All I can say is look at NICE or British Thoracic Guidelines (BTS): this quackery doesn't feature anywhere.

That's because it doesn't work and only preys on people's fears. Please don't waste your money on this nonsense.

I think you are very dodgy, don't know why , just like you don't, even though you think you do. It works both ways or neither depending on how far the totem pole has impaled.

mr_rush

think you are very dodgy, don't know why , just like you don't, even though you think you do. It works both ways or neither depending on how far the totem pole has impaled.

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frivolous_fay

It gets a mention on Bad Science:
http://www.badscience.net/2005/08/magnetic-needling/#more-162