High paid temporary jobs

Scaredy_Cat_3

Not sure what you are aiming to do here? What aircraft are you rated on? I assume you only have a CPL, since you said 'commercial'. Have you considered doing the ATPL, or is that too expensive?

I assume you have looked in Flight etc? I would have thought the best thing you could do, if you want to gain experience would be to contact anyone and everyone in the business, send off your CV to companies, and also try making contacts at your local airport. I seem to remember some Air Charter companies would hire in pilots on a day contract, but of course you would need to be type rated... as I say probably best to put the feelers out and see who operates in your area. Once they know you are available you may have more success.

Wings_of_Ambition

Believe me - if there is an avenue for finding flying jobs, I've been down it! I have the full ATPL, I regularly go through Flight (online and in printed form), I've emailed and posted so many CVs it's scary, Google might come up with pilot jobs, but those are for highly qualified pilots with thousands of hours and who already have type ratings. There's a massive forum like this for the air industry and the general feeling on there is that there won't be many jobs around for newly qualified pilots until at least the beginning of next year, and maybe the year after.

For those suggesting cabin crew is a massive step down, I'm well aware of this.... I've been through the flight training, I have the massive debt, and the last thing I want to be doing is taking a job other than flying. But I have to be realistic. I have a relatively low number of hours, I don't have a type rating, and I can't afford to pay £20,000 to work for the likes of Ryanair. So my CV is going to be way down near the bottom of the pile, and most probably in the bin of most Chief Pilots' offices. Cabin crew work is a good step as it gets me experience with the aircraft, it gets me back in the air again, I'll get to chat to flight crew about when the company may next be recruiting as well as getting to understand their lifestyle, rosters, etc, and I'll also have a much better understanding of what goes on in the cabin during a flight, which can only go in my favour when applying for cockpit jobs, as the airline I've been taken on by has a massive emphasis on the flight crew and cabin crew working together as a team. Having my flying licences was mentioned at my cabin crew interview, but the interviewer told me they had several fully qualified pilots working for them as cabin crew, and I spoke to one candidate at the assessment day who had been flying large jets for 17 years.... if she can't get a cockpit position, I'm defo gonna struggle!

To answer the languages question, just English and basic French, although this is seen as sufficient.

Thanks for the advice and comments so far

angel13

schneckster wrote: »

There's an old saying on the forums which I usually hate. But on this occasion it may help....

Google is your friend!

I've just done a quick search on Google for pilot jobs and found quite a few... all different aircraft and different ranks, based in different locations, and I didn't understand half of it. But the point is, if I can find jobs on the net and I know sod all about flying (except out the door when I'm late for work!) then you must surely be able to find something.

I do know that if I trained as a commercial pilot, cabin crew is, with the greatest respect to them, a massive step down I wouldn't take. It's also a step that may count against you when attempting to get a pilot's job.

Best of luck, though,

Schneckster

I do not know about this type of work. What I do know is I am a trained analyst with a science degree and I cannot find ANYTHING suitable for me to do. I could google and what appears to be a whole pile of jobs with matching terms may appear but that is not the same as an actual job doing what you are trained to do. I have now given up on trying to find a professional role as it just does not exist right now. I am trying to find freelance work to do from home; mystery shopping for a bit of cash; then cash will be used to get stock for an online business venture.

People have to do what they need too to do something with their lives. I have applied for literally 1000s of jobs for which I am overly qualified - not what i want on my CV but i have a family to feed - and I have not even had one interview. So I have given up on that avenue as well.

As for pilots as I said I do not know anything about this field but I did work in aerospace/defence industry. Dependant on your background and knowledge is it possible you could find project management type work for a MOD or aero linked company? Do you have a degree or just your pilot certificates - sorry I have had to call them that as I really dont know how it all works :o:o

schneckster

I do not know about this type of work. What I do know is I am a trained analyst with a science degree and I cannot find ANYTHING suitable for me to do. I could google and what appears to be a whole pile of jobs with matching terms may appear but that is not the same as an actual job doing what you are trained to do. I have now given up on trying to find a professional role as it just does not exist right now. I am trying to find freelance work to do from home; mystery shopping for a bit of cash; then cash will be used to get stock for an online business venture.

It's the law of percentages... the more things you find, the more likely you are to find something useful! When I found myself unemployed, I did exactly this and waded through hundreds of things that I either couldn't do or weren't suitable for... but I also found quite a few that were suitable that I did apply for and got interviews. I also found quite a few contacts that are now paying off with work-from-home stuff.

I agree that finding it on Google doesn't mean you get the job. But you need a start, and the determination to keep going till you get something. That attitude had me back in a job suitable for my training within 3 months, and a sideline work-from-home business a few months later.

With the greatest of respect, this...

I could google and what appears to be a whole pile of jobs with matching terms may appear but that is not the same as an actual job doing what you are trained to do. I have now given up on trying to find a professional role as it just does not exist right now.

... tells me why you struggled. As an electronics engineer, I had the "it's a quiet market/nothing around at the moment" from all the recruitment agencies, and saw little on some sites for what I wanted, or more correctly where (young family means I'm rooted to the spot - Birmingham isn't reknowned for it's electronics industry!). So, I found more agencies and more websites and still got a new job within 3 months.

The mind is a powerful tool, glasshopper... get that right, the rest will surely follow.;)

Cheers,

Schneckster

angel13

thanks for that but i am not a defeatist. just what i am looking for does not exist. i was made redundant 17 months ago but not able to start looking till physio was over last september. i can only do part time hours with good working conditions and have to be careful about carrying becuase of my back etc etc etc. so what i can physically do does not match with jobs i am trained to do. for example i now cannot drive to commute as it is out of the question and if i got a train to commute i need to make sure i am not carrying a laptop. as an analyst i need those tools with me. so becuase of this i have moved on to my own business from home and i am also applying for freelance work to also do from home and lecturing etc etc. i am also considering teacher training part time. so i am not being pessimistic and that is not how i think others should be but i literally cannot do the jobs i have found. if it wasnt for this by now i would be doing bar work or cleaning again to cover the bills but they are not things i can do any longer.

schneckster

Angel13,

When I posted, I wasn't aware of your physical limitations. From what you describe, you now have, probably, too many restrictions on your job needs that it would pretty much rule out anything you find.

Not knowing your limitations, your previous post sounded defeatist. I've heard it before where people say they've been looking and can't find anything... usually they have problems with their determination, you know?

Knowing your limitations now, makes your post look more realistic than defeatist.

Best of luck to you,

Schneckster

tubsmacker

I remember in the 80's recession seeing a newspaper article which highlighted a 747 captain with thousands of hours experience selling tickets at a Heathrow car park. a more recent recession in the 90's had a quote from a National aviation magazine which said:
"What do you say to a newly qualified CPL/IR ( commercial pilot)"?
Ans: "Big Mac and fries please"
I was flying privately at the time and always had a lot of respect for those pilots who funded their own training to commercial pilot level. Most that I knew found jobs eventually, as the fortunes in the airline world change quickly and dramatically.
Good Luck

n90bar

As a current commercial pilot flying for one of the UK's big airlines....I can relate to "wings of ambition" post - its an incredibly difficult industry to break into. I think working as cabin crew or for that matter any airport/airline related job is a great idea. It helps keep the enthusiasm alive and of course you can keep your head in the aviation world. I think it would also look good on your CV when in a year or so down the line an airline looks at your CV they can clearly see you were prepared to do other aviation related jobs....who knows it could even favour you against your peers - particularly if you have been working as cabin crew as you will know thier role and responsibilities in some depth and will have an appreciation for the cabin atmosphere.

Anyway, just my thoughts!

Wings_of_Ambition

n90bar wrote: »

As a current commercial pilot flying for one of the UK's big airlines....I can relate to "wings of ambition" post - its an incredibly difficult industry to break into. I think working as cabin crew or for that matter any airport/airline related job is a great idea. It helps keep the enthusiasm alive and of course you can keep your head in the aviation world. I think it would also look good on your CV when in a year or so down the line an airline looks at your CV they can clearly see you were prepared to do other aviation related jobs....who knows it could even favour you against your peers - particularly if you have been working as cabin crew as you will know thier role and responsibilities in some depth and will have an appreciation for the cabin atmosphere.

Anyway, just my thoughts!

Hi n90bar,

Cheers for the post. Funny this thread should be revived with such advice... I've recently just started work as cabin crew for those very reasons of not going insane in an office and also to 'immerse myself in aviation' with the aim of improving the CV and perhaps being in the right place at the right time

The_Thrilla

High paid temporary job? Prime Minister.