e-Lottery Affiliate System

BargainGalore

Well your the only who keeps falling for mlm schemes and you keep defending one particularly one despite having your fingers burnt once.

And you post was helpful? I was mealy stating a fact, the fact is you bought into two mlm schemes, are you denying that now?

steam_dan wrote: »

Another helpful post by the person who couldn't think of anything reasonable to say against me being involved in Kleeneze so he simply slurred my character by accusing me of ripping off old ladies. I do love it when people give you the ammunition to throw back in their own faces. I can do this time and time again if I wanted to. The evidence is on these forums for all the people to see so nobody can say I am slurring your character. You have done that for yourself!

PS I shall not add anymore to this debate, have nice evening

steam_dan wrote: »

I also tried VWDs e-lottery syndicate a few years ago. Play the lottery for free! What a laugh, I played for 6 months and as well as paying £10 a week to play I also spent over £900 trying to promote it to others. Got one or two people to play but they didn't stay long. £1,160 to play for 6 months doesn't sound like free to me!

Most people view them as a scam they are have a flawed business, many people will get duped/deceived call it what you will

freeoffers wrote: »

MLM isnt a scam. the big problem with MLM is the payouts and the margins of profit make it very dfficult to mae any money. I used to be a part of them but eventually gave up because they were not my idea of 'working for yourself'.

Kit603

BargainGalore wrote: »

Well your the only who keeps falling for mlm schemes and you keep defending one particularly one despite having your fingers burnt once. And you post was helpful? I was mealy stating a fact, the fact is you bought into two mlm schemes, are you denying that now?

Woop de doo. He joined an MLM scheme and it didn't work for him so he joined another... oh dear. What's the big deal? Does the fact that i've tried an item of food and didn't like it mean that I should stop ever eating any food again? Just because a specific company is flawed doesn't mean that the entire concept is.

BargainGalore wrote: »

Most people view them as a scam they are have a flawed business, many people will get duped/deceived call it what you will

Many people do view it as a scam, but its also fair to say that many people don't even know what MLM is and how the company works. Yes, there are people for whom it hasn't worked, but there are also people who just judge the book by its cover and by what other people have said.

Same as... if 5000 people bought a TV and one person said oh... the sounds rubbish, someone else said the picture is rubbish and somebody else said it broke after a week... that's 3/5000 people who are disatisfied but I bet you'll think again after listening to those 3

steam_dan

BargainGalore wrote: »

PS I shall not add anymore to this debate, have nice evening

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I was going to PM you this and take it out of the forum but it looks as if you have blocked me from doing so or don't accept PMs.

How does casting unsubstantiated slurs on someone's good character constitute a debate? You clearly think it is acceptable to randomly accuse people, who you know nothing about, of "ripping off old ladies with over-priced tat" simply because they have made a career choice that you disagree with. When I and someone else pointed it out to you that this comment was unacceptable, did you have the good grace to accept that your comment may have been made in haste and offer any kind of apology? No you did not.


It has not gone unnoticed that you have now deleted the slanderous post, presumably so that you can lie to other people and deny that you ever said it, thus casting further slurs on my character that I am also a liar! You can't, however, delete my reply to you which can be found at:
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=1734131&highlight=kleeneze&page=3 if anyone is interested. I have not denied anything that I have said in any of my posts. I have been honest with you, even when I knew that that honesty may have given you further cause to deride me. All of my posts remain intact for all to see, I am not ashamed of anything that I have said and have not deleted any of my posts. The fact that you have deleted the post in which you slandered me suggests to me that you are deeply ashamed of it and have thus removed the evidence in an attempt to cover your tracks and make me look foolish. Well, I think that that one has backfired on you now. If you are ashamed of what you said and truly regret it then you should at least have the decency to apologize publicly to me for your hurtful unfounded slanderous comments. If you are not ashamed of your comment and do not regret it then why would you feel the need to remove it from the forum at all. You clearly post first without engaging your brain and then you do not even have the courage to stand by what you have said. You take the coward's way out by deleting the post instead of being a man and openly admitting that you were wrong to say what you did and offering a public apology.

Oh yes, and BTW, the other day on my round I had good reason to be concerned about the welfare of an elderly lady in her home. Two days running the blinds were closed, the radio playing very loud and on the second day the mornings post still sticking out of her letter box at 6.30pm. After alerting a neighbour, I called the police and they were very grateful to me for calling them. I have walked passed this house again and the police had to break the door down to gain access. I don't know the outcome as all the police would tell me was that "everything was in order" but accepted that I had genuine cause for concern. A far cry from "ripping off old ladies". Clearly you have not stopped to consider that maybe people going door-to-door can also act as the eyes and ears of the community as we may see things that normal passers-by might miss and thus make a positive contribution to our community.

You will probably think that I have made this story up and I expect you to make a stupid crass comment such as "I bet you just wanted to get your catalogue back" as you are clearly not interested in anyone else's opinion but your own.

My original reply to the OP was a helpful comment, your reply to my comment did nothing to help the OP and added nothing to the thread. I was merely pointing this out to you and also making other people aware of the nasty side to your character so that they might think twice before accepting your advice. You really have not helped your reputation by casting slurs on my character and I suspect that it will probably be a matter of time before you do it again to me or someone else.

"Debate" don't make me laugh. You clearly don't know the meaning of the word.


Now that is all that I have to say on the subject as I have wasted far too much of my precious time on defending myself to people who are only interested in scoring points for themselves rather than helping others.