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BTL LL's hit harder...

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  • Harry_Powell
    Harry_Powell Posts: 2,089 Forumite
    Harry, I think you said you rent? (beware barn conversions) do you feel homeless?

    Hi lostinrates, yes I rent and always have since leaving home. I must be in the minority because I have never really viewed the properties I have rented as 'my homes'. They're just places where I live.

    I guess I have more of an attachment to people than inanimate objects such as buildings or cars or the like.
    "I can hear you whisperin', children, so I know you're down there. I can feel myself gettin' awful mad. I'm out of patience, children. I'm coming to find you now." - Harry Powell, Night of the Hunter, 1955.
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    I guess I have more of an attachment to people than inanimate objects such as buildings or cars or the like.

    Thats a non sequitur. One can have a 'home' (owned or rented) and feel more attached to people! When you ''left home'' indicates that. :)
  • Harry_Powell
    Harry_Powell Posts: 2,089 Forumite
    I didn't say one couldn't. I just said that I didn't.

    Do you guys jump on each other like this all the time, or is it just newbies who get this sort of treatment? :confused:

    I've never been so 'quoted' in my life in a single thread! :rolleyes:
    "I can hear you whisperin', children, so I know you're down there. I can feel myself gettin' awful mad. I'm out of patience, children. I'm coming to find you now." - Harry Powell, Night of the Hunter, 1955.
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    edited 10 June 2009 at 2:45PM
    I didn't say one couldn't. I just said that I didn't.

    Do you guys jump on each other like this all the time, or is it just newbies who get this sort of treatment? :confused:

    I've never been so 'quoted' in my life in a single thread! :rolleyes:

    Not jumping: debating. I apologise you felt jumped on...its only my intent to disagree politely :) In fact, you said you were the minority who didn't: I don't know how one would measure that accurately but I sincerely hope its not true. :)

    Edited later to add: as we exchanged PMs last night in my effort to respond to saying you felt unwelcome I think the charge is slightly unjust, when placed in context. :)
  • I didn't say one couldn't. I just said that I didn't.

    Do you guys jump on each other like this all the time, or is it just newbies who get this sort of treatment? :confused:

    I've never been so 'quoted' in my life in a single thread! :rolleyes:


    Yes - all the time - you're probably treated better when you are new.:D
  • PasturesNew
    PasturesNew Posts: 70,698 Forumite
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    edited 10 June 2009 at 1:55PM
    I didn't say one couldn't. I just said that I didn't.

    Do you guys jump on each other like this all the time, or is it just newbies who get this sort of treatment? :confused:

    I've never been so 'quoted' in my life in a single thread! :rolleyes:

    All the time ... you wait until the regs have a notes list and links to postings you made in the past.

    :)

    Only last night somebody had remembered a comment I'd made on a posting some months back, done some maths, calculated how much my savings pot contains and quoted that value here as a fact - the fact they were WAY off was irrelevant.
  • Hi lostinrates, yes I rent and always have since leaving home. I must be in the minority because I have never really viewed the properties I have rented as 'my homes'. They're just places where I live.

    I guess I have more of an attachment to people than inanimate objects such as buildings or cars or the like.

    We rented when were first married, then bought, my personal feelings are similar to your own. It's bricks and mortar and somewhere to put my head down at night. I'm not emotionally attached to the house. When when our kids were young it represented stability. Which is what most families want more than anything. Stable job, stable home, stable relationship, etc.

    But a lot of people love their homes - when my daughter and her partner split up - I don't know what she was more upset about - him or the house.
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    If they were decent landlords then they wouldn't be going out of business. I'd hazard a guess that the ones who are going bust are the ones who cant keep tenants for any length of time because they so inept. Reposession takes a while and the tenants would be given plenty of notice to get a new place. Some might even be quite please to get out of a AST early without penalty if the landlord is so shoddy. They're not getting "thrown out of their home", because it was never their home in the first place.

    They are getting squeezed by falling house prices ( lower equity) and rising interest rates on BTL mortgages. This makes any period of void rental, bad debt, unexpected maintenance cost difficult to fund.

    Tenants will move if they can find somewhere cheaper to rent.
  • Harry_Powell
    Harry_Powell Posts: 2,089 Forumite
    We rented when were first married, then bought, my personal feelings are similar to your own. It's bricks and mortar and somewhere to put my head down at night. I'm not emotionally attached to the house. When when our kids were young it represented stability. Which is what most families want more than anything. Stable job, stable home, stable relationship, etc.

    But a lot of people love their homes - when my daughter and her partner split up - I don't know what she was more upset about - him or the house.

    My childhood home felt like a 'home' especially as I lived in the same house from birth, but since I moved out, I have had quite a few places and so have never had the same feeling of 'home' as I did as a kid. Perhaps when I settle down and have children myself, this will change? :confused:
    "I can hear you whisperin', children, so I know you're down there. I can feel myself gettin' awful mad. I'm out of patience, children. I'm coming to find you now." - Harry Powell, Night of the Hunter, 1955.
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    edited 10 June 2009 at 2:33PM
    My childhood home felt like a 'home' especially as I lived in the same house from birth, but since I moved out, I have had quite a few places and so have never had the same feeling of 'home' as I did as a kid. Perhaps when I settle down and have children myself, this will change? :confused:

    I think I have a fondness for everywhere I have lived, even briefly. They all represented different things happening in life at the time, they all had funny quirks of sticky windows or leaks or whatever and nice things gardens/layouts/views or whatever. They have fond memories of the people I lived with and loved and the dreams I dreamt at the times. I chose soft furnishings for some of them, I spent hours cleaning them, I had raucous parties and hugged weeping friends who'd been dumped in these homes. I have made plans with my husband about future hoes and dreams in the latter ones, they have all been ''home'' :) Is it a woman thing?
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