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Piggles12345
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Hi,
In my new property there are a number of small furniture items that were in there when I first moved in a couple of weeks ago.
These were not listed on the inventory.
Now the old tenant has asked my letting agent to arrange for her to have some of them back.
If they were not listed on the inventory, how far will I get with arguing that they were not in the property when I moved in? Surely, there is no legal proof that they were ever in the property if they are not listed on the inventory.
Can anyone just clarify this for me, please. Many thanks.
In my new property there are a number of small furniture items that were in there when I first moved in a couple of weeks ago.
These were not listed on the inventory.
Now the old tenant has asked my letting agent to arrange for her to have some of them back.
If they were not listed on the inventory, how far will I get with arguing that they were not in the property when I moved in? Surely, there is no legal proof that they were ever in the property if they are not listed on the inventory.
Can anyone just clarify this for me, please. Many thanks.
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Piggles12345 wrote: »Hi,
If they were not listed on the inventory, how far will I get with arguing that they were not in the property when I moved in? Surely, there is no legal proof that they were ever in the property if they are not listed on the inventory.
Why would you want to do this when it's pretty clear they belong to someone else? Sorry, is it just me that this makes uncomfortable?
Can't you just replace it with buying some of your own, and why wouldn't you have checked the inventory thouroughly? You are basically saying you want to lie to keep something that belongs to someone else - theft??0 -
Although the tenant should have taken them when they left - and/or the landlord/agent removed them .... I think you trying to lie about their existence is most peculiar.
Just let the old tenant have them back, say nothing and move on with your life. You'd not like it if it happened to you.0 -
Kpey - thats exactly what I thought....
Why would you want to lie and say they aren't there? They wont have been put on the inventory if they were expecting someone else to pick them up. They arent part of the furnishings of your new home. They dont belong to the landlord. They dont belong to you.
You should make arrangements to let the previous tenant to come and collect them.
Why would you do anything else?
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Aside from the moral issues - are you sure you'd want to brazen this out? What if the previous tenant can produce photographs from their time in the house where any of the items are visible, or witness statements?0
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Aside from the moral issues - are you sure you'd want to brazen this out? What if the previous tenant can produce photographs from their time in the house where any of the items are visible, or witness statements?
Or if they want to come and make sure that the items are definately not in the property.
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They were not on the inventory because the landlord is not supplying them to you as part of the rental.
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xdaisychainx wrote: »Or if they want to come and make sure that the items are definately not in the property.
I didn't even think of that
I thought the OP meant that he'd pretend these items were his own all along, so it would be the previous tenant's word against his.
In any case this sounds way dodgy, and hardly worth the obvious risks of getting caught stealing!0 -
They belong to someone else, give them back.
Quite, on the other hand, if the OP needs these items and was misled by the LL into thinking they were being provided as part of the flat, then the OP has a legitimate beef with the LL. I guess it depends how important these things are.
I know that I wouldn't expect an incoming tenant to check that everything in the flat is on the inventory, just that whatever is on the inventory is present and correctly described.No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?0 -
Exactly! What if they dont live far away and decide to look
through the window when they are out... then the new tenant
is swearing blind that they arent in there.
1) you would look very stupid
2) you would be caught red handed
3) its just a very silly idea so it is.
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Saying they are yours is clearly fraudulent. Hopefully the Police would take action (and any sensible Landlord hearing of such fraud would probably decide they didn't want that sort of tenant).
However charging for storage of those items would be a different matter.
Cheers!
Lodger0
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