UK Jobs going to Eastern Europe

Thrugelmir

Maybe its the scale of the small scale of the job losses. So it doesn't make headline news. There seems to be significant transfer of jobs to Eastern Europe.

Ones I've picked up recently are:-

Tyco Electronics 225
Dell 600
Indesit 302

This has nothing to do with the recession just bottom line profits. None of these companies is "British" so I guess they have no interest in the people they employ.

Anybody else noticed any others?

StevieJ

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Maybe its the scale of the small scale of the job losses. So it doesn't make headline news. There seems to be significant of jobs to Eastern Europe.

Ones I've picked up recently are:-

Tyco Electronics 225
Dell 600
Indesit 302

This has nothing to do with the recession just bottom line profits. None of these companies is "British" so I guess they have no interest in the people they employ.

Anybody else noticed any others?

Shell has moved/and still is moving loads of back office jobs from UK and Holland to Poland, don't know the numbers.

1984ReturnsForReal_2

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Maybe its the scale of the small scale of the job losses. So it doesn't make headline news. There seems to be significant of jobs to Eastern Europe.

There is a lot more than that.

But its not regarded as news.

Dont forget the jobs that f'ed off to the Far East over the last few years also.

Generali

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

There is a lot more than that.

But its not regarded as news.

Dont forget the jobs that f'ed off to the Far East over the last few years also.

At a conservative guess, 20,000 City back office jobs (paying at the lower levels GBP25-50,000pa, management jobs up to perhaps GBP100-150,000) have gone to India, Eastern Europe and Liverpool over the past 10 years.

1984ReturnsForReal_2

Generali wrote: »

At a conservative guess, 20,000 City back office jobs (paying at the lower levels GBP25-50,000pa, management jobs up to perhaps GBP100-150,000) have gone to India, Eastern Europe and Liverpool over the past 10 years.

If I was going to be picking figures out of the sky it would be circa 1,000,000 manufacturing & general office staff to the Far East over the last decade.

Thats conservative..


(:rotfl:Liverpool)

jago25_98

I don't think you can stop it.

It's like patents - trying to dam a tide of change.

Wealthier countries all have this effect; Norway, Sweden, France, Germany. All countries in the EU are effected.

I would expect language to increase the effect. As English is the most widely spoken language, and we are now the same `country` as the rest of Europe, I'm suprised there isn't much more movement.

If I was in another country my choices would be clear; France, Germany or England. These give the greatest language benefits.

If it can't be stopped what can be done?

How's about live in Eastern Europe 6 months of the year and work in the UK 6 month a year, something like that?
Also check out jobs/income in Eastern Europe.

To do this would presumably be as hard as it is for an Eastern European to get a job here. Any problems in doing this should be bartered with our generousity in the labour market.
This is going with the flow of change rather than trying to stop it.

Is it a fair trade? It's one forced into by circumstance. It's one that many Brits are doing, moving abroad.

Basically what is happening is free market competition on labour. Given time there's little to stop jobs here equalising with jobs in Eastern Europe.

But what gets me is that everybody turns thier back on this until it comes to them, thinking it won't effect them because they're in a higher position or different industry. Just because you're a solicitor doesn't mean your job is safe. Time to move to Cuba :rolleyes:

BiggaThanBen

As an old saying goes (well, almost):

If Mahomet can not come to the mountain, the mountain must go to Mahomet

neas

Toshiba in plymouth relocated 250-300 jobs to poland ;P

cocktail

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Maybe its the scale of the small scale of the job losses. So it doesn't make headline news. There seems to be significant transfer of jobs to Eastern Europe.

Ones I've picked up recently are:-

Tyco Electronics 225
Dell 600
Indesit 302

This has nothing to do with the recession just bottom line profits. None of these companies is "British" so I guess they have no interest in the people they employ.

Anybody else noticed any others?

going on for ages. companies have to make a profit so off the jobs go. if i was running the company, i would do the same. unfortunately as the quality of living improves, it brings with it working regulations and other laws which put a lot of strains on the finances.
in order to produce a reasonably priced product and to make a reasonable profit either cheaper materials have to be sourced of cheaper labour. unfortunately neither of this is cheap in the UK(net importer and high labour in comparision).
on the other hand this creates employment in the poorer countries and perhaps improves lifestyle. on the positive side the products we get are cheaper and hence more affordable. £3 jeans/£2 tshirts/ are just examples.

chopperharris

why shouldnt these jobs go overseas , companies have no loyalites , and neither has the consumer.

Most of the products we buy come from overseas and as a result are cheaper.We cant have it both ways , you cant have cheap products made in the uk as the workers wont take the wages at lower rates , and ultimately dont end up with a job at all.

How about the next time the psuedo bnp media reports peeve you off that you simply read everyting that you put into your shopping basket and only choose products that were made in the uk by uk companies.

How about you check every company that you buy insurance , petrol , electricity , gas and telephone from are uk companies and dont operate overseas call centres.

By the time you replace the dislike for foreign products and companies with liking british ones your getting less wages as your spendable income decreases.Its horses for courses.

If i was running a big british company , never mind a foreign one , guess where I would be doing my manufacturing and employment....wherever it is cheapest to get the end result , just like we all do at the tills and bills.

Then again theres eu countries that flout fair trade laws , and have their nationals that buy national before imports.I am not just talking french,german and italian cars here neither but down to local produce , banking and fuels.

epz_2

The problem is the uk may well be as or even more competitive than other countries however you need to pay a uk worker enough to live. Since a large chunk of the minimum you need to live is rent/mortgage the minimum base cost is so much higher that its unlikely we can compete.

basicly we need the £ or house hold debt to fall if we want to compete.