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Mortgage or cash

I have a dilemma

Whichever way I do the sums I reckon I am better using my capital to buy a flat to 'let-out' outright.

The property is £75k

Income £400/month.

working out over 20 years with todays rates I think I would be much better off buying cash.

I have taken into account as much detail as I can. Tax relief on mortgage interest. Income tax etc. still at 22% in joint names etc. CGT, very conservative house price raises.

QUESTION
Am I missing a trick? appart from using up capital.

Of course your average mortgage broker will advise as much mortgage as he could get away with.

Anyone else have any thoughts?

Thanks

Comments

  • philproc wrote:
    Of course your average mortgage broker will advise as much mortgage as he could get away with.

    Why do you say that then?
    I am a fee charging WoM Mortgage broker.
    I now no longer give information and opinion within the Mortgage boards, because a number of posters who, having approached me professionally, agreed my fee-which has been been made very clear at the outset, taken my advice (normally cancelling a [home visit] meeting at short notice) have then approached one of the fee-free brokers on here to arrange the very same deal I have advised.
    Whilst I totally concur with the ethos of "money saving"- abusing the goodwill of a professional who provides a quality service is taking it too far! :mad:
  • MortgageMamma
    MortgageMamma Posts: 6,686 Forumite
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    Define average mortgage broker?
    I am a Mortgage Adviser

    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • silvercar
    silvercar Posts: 50,672 Ambassador
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    You need to compare the interest you could get on the £75k if you invested it elsewhere plus the profit you would make on the buy-to-let with a large mortgage to the profit you would make by investing the £75k in a BTL allowing for the interest payments being a tax deductable expense.

    You are right to consider the whole picture not just the tax benefit but do remember that the money will be working for you elsewhere if it is not invested in a property.
    I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.
  • philproc
    philproc Posts: 13 Forumite
    Define average mortgage broker?

    I can only define average mortgage broker of course by my own experience. I have probably spoken to eight in the last few months. They obviously vary in opinion but ALL without fail asked me to take out more mortgage than I origionaly sought. I may have a suspicious mind of course, but when questioned in differing approaches I can only deduce that apart from the 'fee only' seeking ones they where the ones who would benefit rather than me.

    No disrespect to brokers I have not dealt with but that is may humble opinion.

    As for the capital working for me in other places, I can only work on what I am prepared to gamble with therefore I didn't use unrealistic get rich quick schemes.

    What I was hoping for on here was a fair unbiased opinion as to peoples thoughts on the merits of cash purchase over mortgage. I have almost convinced myself, but reasurance would be great :T


    Thanks again
  • philproc wrote:
    . Of course your average mortgage broker will advise as much mortgage as he could get away with.

    philproc wrote:
    What I was hoping for on here was a fair unbiased opinion as to peoples thoughts on the merits of cash purchase over mortgage.


    Well then, posting in this manner on a board where a significant number of the contributors are both mortgage brokers and obviously unbiased (because they have nothing to gain)- it's probably not the best way to get what you want.

    Nuff said :lipsrseal :lipsrseal
    I am a fee charging WoM Mortgage broker.
    I now no longer give information and opinion within the Mortgage boards, because a number of posters who, having approached me professionally, agreed my fee-which has been been made very clear at the outset, taken my advice (normally cancelling a [home visit] meeting at short notice) have then approached one of the fee-free brokers on here to arrange the very same deal I have advised.
    Whilst I totally concur with the ethos of "money saving"- abusing the goodwill of a professional who provides a quality service is taking it too far! :mad:
  • MortgageMamma
    MortgageMamma Posts: 6,686 Forumite
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    sorry you feel you have had a rough ride with mortgage brokers in the past. we don't mean to be rude or disrespectful, but nothing winds a genuine hard working broker up more than being typecast as someone that will just sell to you unecessarily or even worse someone that will offer advice that is not in your best interests. We give our time for free on here with nothing to gain but the satisfaction of knowing that we have educated and informed the non qualified posters to make better decisions with their finances. I hope now I've explained our feelings you will feel better towards mortgage brokers. find yourself a good one and stick with him/her for life
    I am a Mortgage Adviser

    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • philproc
    philproc Posts: 13 Forumite
    Well then, posting in this manner on a board where a significant number of the contributors are both mortgage brokers and obviously unbiased (because they have nothing to gain)- it's probably not the best way to get what you want.

    Nuff said :lipsrseal :lipsrseal

    That's the very reason I posted on here in the first place, hoping to get some unbiased advise. I can only recount my experiance to date. I was hoping that my faith could be restored. I apologise if I have sterotyped the mortgage broker profession but until I manage to find some clear unbiaed guidance I am stuck.

    Look at the first post, perhaps I was a bit heavy handed and should have just asked the question Cash or mortgage.

    Perhaps I will just have to go with my own sums and take my risk in my own hands.

    Again apologies if I anoyed anyone and thanks for the advise
  • silvercar
    silvercar Posts: 50,672 Ambassador
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    As for the capital working for me in other places, I can only work on what I am prepared to gamble with therefore I didn't use unrealistic get rich quick schemes

    Stick it in a high interest savings account and you should get 5% (less after tax). Low risk and you should be including this in your calculations.
    I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.
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