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House Prices up 4.2% in 3 months Nationwide

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  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    ad44downey wrote: »
    No, chucky's got a graphi that proves they are. Can you pop into the next room Dan and tell chucky to post it again. Thanks

    I recall chucky's graph.
    He posted it after someone asked to see the Nationwide graph starting from only 2 months ago.
    He did what he was asked and now he is slated for it.

    some people just have no humour ;)
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    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
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  • System
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    Ironically it's the same graph as downey posted every day when it showed drops.
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  • StevieJ
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    I recall chucky's graph.
    He posted it after someone asked to see the Nationwide graph starting from only 2 months ago.
    He did what he was asked and now he is slated for it.

    some people just have no humour ;)

    It is only Downey icon7.gif
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  • baileysbattlebus
    baileysbattlebus Posts: 1,443 Forumite
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    edited 2 June 2009 at 10:01PM
    If you really want to know the methodology for the Halifax and Nationwide - they both use the same analysis. It's the typical house that's different.

    here goes - bit of light reading on a Tuesday evening
    Methodology
    The methodology is based on the 'hedonic' approach to price measurement
    characterised by valuing goods for the attributes they possess. In the case of
    housing, prices will reflect the valuation placed by a purchaser on the
    particular set of physical and locational attributes possessed by the property
    they wish to buy.

    Prices are disaggregated into their constituent parts using multivariate
    regression analysis. This permits the estimation of the change in average price
    from one period to another on a standardised basis. An obvious analogy can be
    drawn with the standard basket of goods used for calculating the retail price
    index.

    So, observing a set of house prices, Pi , (i=1,2,...,n), in time period (t) in
    which each house (i) is sold. Price differences in these properties will be due
    to differences in qualitative characteristics (type of property, region, etc.)
    and to differences in quantitative characteristics (age of property, number of
    habitable rooms, garages, bathrooms, etc.). For each house, i, we can represent
    the price, Pi , as a function of these characteristics Xij , along with a group
    of unmeasured (and randomly distributed) factors, ei . Mathematically, this
    relationship can be expressed as

    Pi = b0 + b1X1i + b2X2i + ... +bjXji + ei

    where b1 ,b2 , ... ,bj are the regression coefficients associated with the
    qualitative and quantitative variables Xij .

    The regression coefficients are estimated using the technique of ordinary least
    squares. These coefficients indicate the relative importance of the variables in
    explaining the variation of house prices in any one time period t.

    The average price for any set of houses in any period will depend on the number
    of observations on each characteristic in that period. Standardisation allows
    for the varying mix of characteristics between different time periods and is
    achieved by applying a representative set of weights corresponding to the
    numbers of each characteristic observed in a base period. For the Halifax House
    Price Index this has been chosen as 1983. The index numbers represent the
    movement in average prices for houses possessing the same characteristics as those bought in 1983 and are calculated by comparing the weighted (i.e mix-adjusted) prices in each current period with the weighted average price in the base period.

    The steps involved in establishing the Index are
    Calculate the weights, Qj1983 : the proportions of the qualitative variables and the means of the quantitative variables present in the base period (1983). With price recorded in natural log form, use the technique of least squares to estimate the regression coefficients bj for the j explanatory variables (in both the base period (bj1983) and for every subsequent time period t (bjt)).

    Calculate the base-weighted index for the current period (It)

    It=antilog....................

    Summation is carried out over all variables included in each regression.

    This procedure is used to calculate five monthly series of base-weighted index numbers covering

    · all houses (seasonally adjusted)
    · all houses
    · new houses
    · existing houses
    · houses bought by first-time buyers
    · houses bought by former owner-occupiers

    Index numbers for each of the twelve standard statistical regions are calculated
    quarterly for

    · all houses (seasonally adjusted)
    · all houses
    · new houses
    · existing houses


  • nearlynew
    nearlynew Posts: 3,800 Forumite
    Can somebody please tell me why high house prices are a good thing?
    "The problem with quotes on the internet is that you never know whether they are genuine or not" -
    Albert Einstein
  • Pixulated
    Pixulated Posts: 57 Forumite
    I hope you are telling lies because I need cash to buy a house... please let this not be true.
  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    edited 2 June 2009 at 10:17PM
    nearlynew wrote: »
    Can somebody please tell me why high house prices are a good thing?

    Why not start a new thread instead of asking the same question across the threads?

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.html?p=22097207&postcount=7
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    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
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  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    Why not start a new thread instead of asking the same question across the threads?

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.html?p=22097207&postcount=7

    Good work detective!
  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    Good work detective!

    LOL, I wasn't playing detective, I answered on the other thread and then read this one to see the same question posted.
    Just some helpful advise.
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    LOL, I wasn't playing detective, I answered on the other thread and then read this one to see the same question posted.
    Just some helpful advise.

    I know, but no ones really been able to answer the posters question with a hint of actual fact or decent reasoning.
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