The recession, benefits, the safety net, and the learning curve

Max_Headroom_3

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

I'm sorry, I know that living on £64 is tight but to say that it doesn't cover food and utilities for one person isn't realistic.

Mate, you're not going to win this one. It's not a matter for considered subjective opinion and chin stroking from behind the keyboard, it's a matter of simple fact.

JSA will not pay my bills and allow me to eat.

You can say "oh but it will, you just need to change your lifestyle" as much as you please, but sadly the very simple fact is that it won't.

cocktail

[And I refer you to my earlier comment, you don't see career benefit claimants made to share houses, so why should I?[/QUOTE]
absolutely.
so a person who has worked for years and paid into the system and is currently out of job due to the recession gets less then a career benefit claimant. how on earth can that be fair. on top of that gets ridiculed on forums. how shameful can that be.
pitiful state of affairs. ultimately we have to remember to treat our taxpayers money with respect. money thrown around on people who dont deserve it just loses its value.

PasturesNew

Max_Headroom wrote: »

...you don't see career benefit claimants made to share houses, so why should I?

Bl00dy good point!
I think there is some merit in them doing so. For many it would be great as they could share childcare too, so could do little jobs without the need for formal nurseries.

PasturesNew

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

Do you mean a studio flat?

Yes. What other sort of studio is there that people live in?

cocktail

PasturesNew wrote: »

Bl00dy good point!
I think there is some merit in them doing so. For many it would be great as they could share childcare too, so could do little jobs without the need for formal nurseries.

excellent point, probably worth looking into.

dopester

Max_Headroom wrote: »

Mate, you're not going to win this one. It's not a matter for considered subjective opinion and chin stroking from behind the keyboard, it's a matter of simple fact.

JSA will not pay my bills and allow me to eat.

You can say "oh but it will, you just need to change your lifestyle" as much as you please, but sadly the very simple fact is that it won't.

Yesterday I did a bit of research, and read this page, and the page linking off it.

I am writing to confirm that I am now in a position to reply to your request for information about Jobseeker’s Allowance which you requested on 11th April 2008.

The personal allowance rates of JSA are intended to cover all basic day-to -day living expenses such as food and fuel for light and heating.

Deflation is going to see benefit payments cut, but it will still be in line with the JSA of today, for the cost-of-living for food, fuel for light and heating, for those who qualify under the new regime.

bo_drinker

Max, what job were you doing ?? before it all went t1ts up.

mewbie_2

bo_drinker wrote: »

Max, what job were you doing ?? before it all went t1ts up.

I'm guessing it paid more than £60 a week.

Oldernotwiser

cocktail wrote: »

[And I refer you to my earlier comment, you don't see career benefit claimants made to share houses, so why should I?

absolutely.
so a person who has worked for years and paid into the system and is currently out of job due to the recession gets less then a career benefit claimant. how on earth can that be fair. on top of that gets ridiculed on forums. how shameful can that be.
.[/QUOTE]

But they don't get less; if their situation is the same then they get exactly the same amount.

Oldernotwiser

PasturesNew wrote: »

Yes. What other sort of studio is there that people live in?

Exactly; we were talking about studio houses, which is why I made my joky comment as they hardly exist!