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O A P tax etc

billy_1
billy_1 Posts: 235 Forumite
Hi could anyone help please, my Dad works casual odd days for his old firm, does anyone know of a management company that can deal with his tax national insurance etc . Now he is no longer permanently employed ,:confused: hope this is clear. thank u
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  • dzug1
    dzug1 Posts: 13,535 Forumite
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    If he's an OAP (65+) then he's exempt from national insurance.

    And if he's working casual odd days a 'management company' seems over kill. Why can't he do it himself - it's not that difficult.

    But just about any accountant will do it - for a fee
  • billy_1
    billy_1 Posts: 235 Forumite
    Yes thank you, he is 68 so what would he need to give to an accountant ??
  • dzug1
    dzug1 Posts: 13,535 Forumite
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    His tax return, details of his state pension, details of his casual earnings and of any other income.

    But as I said before why pay an accountant to do it when he can do it at home for nothing. By the time he's put all the details together he could have filled the form in.
  • PlutoinCapricorn
    PlutoinCapricorn Posts: 4,598 Forumite
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    On what basis is he working for his old firm? Is he registered self-employed? I agree that if he is just earning a bit here and there he should be able to compile and file his own figures if that is necessary. He has a high personal allowance now, so may not need to pay tax at all.
    Who having known the diamond will concern himself with glass?

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  • billy_1
    billy_1 Posts: 235 Forumite
    edited 10 May 2009 at 3:19PM
    He works for his firm only when they are busy, Not allways one day a week. So i suppose he is self employed now, you say he can do this tax himself what do we do ?? sorry to ask so many questions as allways had employers to do all this for us:money: Also i havent said, he needs to bill his firm, so at present isnt getting paid from them £££££££££3
  • BruceyBonus
    BruceyBonus Posts: 1,143 Forumite
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    He'll need to register as self-employed at http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/sa/self-emp-part.htm

    Every year, they'll send a self assessment tax return where he needs to declare all his income. The form isn't very scary as long as you keep records of everything. Remember that you can always phone/visit HMRC and ask them questions if you get stuck with the form!
  • billy_1
    billy_1 Posts: 235 Forumite
    Ok thanks for that form, what is the best way to bill his company for his wage ??:beer:
  • harryhound
    harryhound Posts: 2,662 Forumite
    edited 11 May 2009 at 5:27PM
    Some companies in this situation will program their computer to create an invoice to themselves on behalf of the "contractor" and churn out a monthly cheque at the same time.
    The input document(s) to the computer could be chits signed by his supervisor, woops "front line client", for the work done.
    This sort of dance helps to maintain dad's new status as "self employed"; it helps if he can demonstrate that he organises his own diary (ie they phone and say "can you come in next week and do the widgets job" and "he says OK I'll be along on Wednesday".) and if he has more than one customer.

    That said, I doubt that HMR&C could get too excited if his profits are below (say) 15K.

    What sort of work does he do?
  • billy_1
    billy_1 Posts: 235 Forumite
    Like i say its only the odd day a week, he is a maintenance fitter and drives the trucks and other vehicles:D
  • mrkbrrws
    mrkbrrws Posts: 337 Forumite
    Whose idea was this arrangement and what is its purpose?

    I would have thought your Dad would continue as an employee if he is doing the same job just working reduced hours, why does he want to be self-employed?
    I am an Accountant. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as an Accountant.
    All posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and should not be seen as professional advice.
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