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Housing at its most AFFORDABLE level for more then six years

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  • kennyboy66_2
    kennyboy66_2 Posts: 2,598 Forumite
    edited 5 May 2009 at 3:32PM
    ad9898 wrote: »
    I haven't had chance to read it yet, but if this 'affordability' has anything to do with the current interest level, then I would say it's largely irrelevant. It is not possible to take a 25 year loan and base it on today's artificial interest rates, unless of course you get yourself a 25 year fix, and I bet a hefty sum that if such deals exist in the current climate, they will be way over 6%, with punitive charges if you wish to pull out of it.

    If the article has nothing to do with the current interest rates, then forgive me Dan.

    This affordability index is house price divided by average earnings.

    However - this index was below 3.5 for the period 1993 - 2001.

    The average since 1982 is 4.01, hovever if we looked at the period from 1983 - 2001 Q4 the average would only be 3.63.

    Why would we exclude the last 7 years ? - well the down cycle still has some way to run.

    I'm no doomster but a ratio of somewhere between 3.5 - 4.0 feels about right.
    US housing: it's not a bubble

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  • ukcarper
    ukcarper Posts: 17,337 Forumite
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    Surely you can't just take the average when prices were low you must take the average over a complete cycle.
  • FoxtonsRIP
    FoxtonsRIP Posts: 323 Forumite
    Dan: wrote: »
    Home affordability for potential first-time buyers (FTBs) has reached its lowest level in more than six years.




    Please stop it Desperate Dan. You're truly the King of Rampers :T
  • drc
    drc Posts: 2,057 Forumite
    Dan: wrote: »
    Home affordability for potential first-time buyers (FTBs) has reached its lowest level in more than six years.

    According to the latest Halifax FTB Affordability Review, the house price to earnings ratio - a key affordability measure - is lower now than it has been for more than six years.

    Furthermore, the house price to average earnings ratio has declined from a peak of 5.84 in July 2007 to an estimated 4.34 in March this year - a fall of 26 per cent.

    http://www.ftadviser.com/FTAdviser/Mortgages/Products/FirstTimeBuyers/News/article/20090505/02d45522-3952-11de-9d95-00144f2af8e8/Housing-at-its-most-affordable-level-for-more-than-six-years.jsp




    Not in London it hasn't :rolleyes: Still about 10 x income.
  • davilown
    davilown Posts: 2,303 Forumite
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    Dan: wrote: »
    Maybe the poor b@stards should think about re-training in something, instead of praying for house price falls?
    Oh come on!

    I earn 35k, meaning I can get a mortgage of 122,500. with a 10% deposit
    average wage in UK can get 87,500
    - house prices have to come down.

    BTW, I have an MSc and BSc and earn well abve the national average.

    Stop spouting rubbish just for once Dan.
    30th June 2021 completely debt free…. Downsized, reduced working hours and living the dream.
  • Mr_Mumble
    Mr_Mumble Posts: 1,758 Forumite
    Dan: wrote: »
    Home affordability for potential first-time buyers (FTBs) has reached its lowest level in more than six years.
    Surely that should be highest level? :confused:
    "The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else." -- Frederic Bastiat, 1848.
  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
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    davilown wrote: »
    Oh come on!

    I earn 35k, meaning I can get a mortgage of 122,500. with a 10% deposit
    average wage in UK can get 87,500
    - house prices have to come down.

    BTW, I have an MSc and BSc and earn well abve the national average.

    Stop spouting rubbish just for once Dan.

    well done on the degree and the masters.

    house prices in certain areas do need to come down but what has average wages and average house prices go to do with buying a house? is that what the average person buys?
  • FoxtonsRIP
    FoxtonsRIP Posts: 323 Forumite
    davilown wrote: »

    BTW, I have an MSc and BSc and earn well abve the national average.

    Stop spouting rubbish just for once Dan.
    Dan has a GCSE in woodwork so sorry Buddy you lose.
  • abaxas
    abaxas Posts: 4,141 Forumite
    "Ferarri affordability for potential first-time buyers (FTBs) has reached its lowest level in more than six years."

    etc etc

  • ukcarper
    ukcarper Posts: 17,337 Forumite
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    davilown wrote: »
    Oh come on!

    I earn 35k, meaning I can get a mortgage of 122,500. with a 10% deposit
    average wage in UK can get 87,500
    - house prices have to come down.

    BTW, I have an MSc and BSc and earn well abve the national average.

    Stop spouting rubbish just for once Dan.
    A FTB doesn’t normally buy an average house. With a reasonable deposit they’re not far of a two-bed terrace.
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