got LO now DEO but what next if he leaves job AGAIN?

choccywoccy

HI,

My ex has dodged paying maintenence now for our 2 DDs for the last 5 years he has job-hopped 5 times every time the csa get a DEO he goes on the sick (he has ann old history of depression, but he now uses this as a get out clause - he signs off due to "stress" when it is convinient and then gets income support for 6 months then he gets another job - the csa take months to catch up with him each time - then the whole stupid circle of writing him letters with a new payment schedule etc begins again.

I got MP William Hague involved which escuated my case anyway - tcalss he has a LO for the arrears of £5700 and a new DEO of £475 a month to begin this month..

So what im expecting is that he will just leave his job now..

Does the LO make any difference this time? if he goes back onto benefits can they still apply for a commital?? The csa have now exhausted all areas except commital - the bailiffs came up with nothing - he has no bank account no mortgage nothing is in his name. I have been told by a woman (enforcement case worker) that the csa rarely issue a commital notice because it takes a whole day of paperwork!! also she said if he were on benefits the judge wouldnt sent him to jail and they wouldnt be able to touch him!! then he will just get another job and it will take another 12 months for me to chase it up - i never seem to get anywhere and he just seems to get away with it!!:mad:

Anyone else here been through similar and actually GOT anywhere??

marksoton

Are they sure about the bank account ? How does he get paid ?

The amount of paperwork it takes them has nothing to do with it, it's their bloody job !!

Sounds to me like you are being fobbed off.

choccywoccy

He must be paid into his wifes account? The CSA asked ME if I knew which bank he was with! But how am I supposed to know that after 5 years? I knew he was bankrupt once but that will be over now and so may have posed him some problems getting an account again, however is there any way the CSA can find out if he has an account> I presumed they must have already done that? (doubt he would have anything in it though he is a serial debter)

Yes I was definatley fobbed off over the Commital thing - the woman I have as my case worker currently is a total drip - keeps going on about her layabout son as if to try and engage some kind of sympathy from me -I originally requested that they go straight for the commital this time because he is in employment and he such a history of non-compliance that I knew he would default by leaving his job and it has taken me a long time to get to this point. I didnt want yet another DEO issued because he never stays in his job long enough to pay it and once he is on benefits they wont be able to take any other action will they send a man who has 5 kids and on income support to jail? (he is very good at playing the depression card when it suits as well) she told me she didnt agree with issuing commitals out and had only ever done two the whole time she has worked for the CSA! I told her that i wasnt asking for her opinion and she went ahead and issued a DEO anyway!

Please dont anyone feel sorry for my ex either - he has 5 kids and doesnt support any of them - he is a total waster and looks after numero uno.

silverangel35

Hi choccy I sympathise with u... My ex husband finally had a deduction of earnings order set on him and low an behold I received payment March and then April, but nothing this month, have called the c.s.a today only to be told he is NOW on benefits and he has been since February!! looks like the 2 months I was getting was from feb & march...so he is now back on benefits, like u mine hasnt paid anything for a number of years (my post is on this board somewhere)..However the lady I spoke to this evening said they are going to look into any assetts he may have, as he owes THEM alot of money in arrears..he has 2 failed direct debits and now the d.e.o against him. She said 'well he will have to get a job sooner or later' my reply was 'yes but it will then take another 6 mths to find out where he is working and by that time he would have left again' So im keeping my fingers crossed for some come back on this, something has to be done, even the lady said it apepars he left almost instantly, BUT it is proving it that may be the problem.
I will not give up, specially not now ! Will keep u informed on what she says incase it can help you in some small way

Kelloggs...is there nothing more that can be done in this kind of situation?

DaisyChainMaker

Hey choccy...I think you and I have the same ex lol x

I have been divorced 8 years now, and in that time gone through everything you described. My ex has even changed names, and moved at least 3 times. Every time the csa catch up with him, he goes on long term sick (depression aka stress) caused by me apparently (I never knew I was a legitimate health hazard) and then loses or leaves his jobs.

He has been living with his latest girlfriend for the last year, but according to the CSA he is homeless, so they obviously are not declaring he lives there. She is a single parent and is living on benefits.

Meanwhile our daughter is now 12. He has another daughter who is coming upto 19, and he has only ever paid the odd payment for her to her mum, for the same reasons. He owes thousands in arrears, and even told her not to go to college but get a job instead as he couldn't afford to pay csa payments. (Ironic when he avoids them anyway).

I could grrrrrrrrrrrrrr but gets us nowhere. The CSA are hopeless, as you say it takes them months to do 'nothing'. My account apparently was 'technically frozen' due to some glitch in their system, so they are now sorting it manually. Only taken them a year to do that.

I doubt if I will ever see a payment from my ex.They have not even mentioned commital or seizing property from him. Last time they caught up with him I had a nasty phone call from him as he claimed he had to cancel his holiday abroad with the girlfriend and her children because I wanted his money. *I heard he still went though, and a few more before and after*

Don't begrudge him anything, but he doesnt even see his daughters let alone take them away or pay anything for them. So why would I care if he can't have a holiday, his daughters don't get holidays abroad. Infact our daughter has never even been away for a proper holiday as I just can't afford it.

sunnyskies

Hi guys,

I think I also share the same ex as you! How funny would that be if it were true!

My ex has resigned every time the CSA catch up with him. They say that they can't even contact him at the moment as he doesn't answer his mobile number and they have never been able to verify his home address (I have given it to them but that isn't good enough).

I've had enough of playing missus nice guy - I still let him see the kids (when he can be bothered) and never bad mouth him. The kids absolutely adore him........very hard to bite my tongue sometimes!

I went on google the other day to see if there was an alternative to the CSA - ie an agency who will go and speak to errant fathers and try and talk some sense into them. Tragically didn't find anything but did find a site that offered advice to people trying to dodge the csa..... grrrrrr

I think the worse thing is that if all our ex's dodge the system long enough then once the child leaves education the debt disappears - it should remain as a debt otherwise it is almost like the reward they get for being evasive and having no morals, conscience or idea of parental responsibilities.

Phew. Rant over. Thank you for listening!