We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

Debate House Prices


In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non MoneySaving matters are no longer permitted. This includes wider debates about general house prices, the economy and politics. As a result, we have taken the decision to keep this board permanently closed, but it remains viewable for users who may find some useful information in it. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

NATIONWIDE - UK house prices fall 0.4 pct mm in April

07:00 30Apr09 RTRS-UK HOUSE PRICES -0.4 PCT M/M IN APRIL VS +0.9 PCT MM IN MARCH - NATIONWIDE
07:00 30Apr09 UK HOUSE PRICES -15.0 PCT Y/Y IN APRIL VS -15.7 PCT Y/Y IN MARCH - NATIONWIDE
07:00 30Apr09 UK house prices fall 0.4 pct mm in April-Nationwide

LONDON, April 30 - British house prices resumed their slide in April, data from mortgage lender Nationwide showed on Thursday, suggesting last month's rise was no more than a blip in a downward trend.
Nationwide said the average house price fell 0.4 percent on the month, partly reversing a surprise 0.9 percent rise in March. Prices were 15 percent lower than a year earlier and down a fifth from peaks set in October 2007.

There have been a few tentative signs that housing market activity may be stabilising but little sign yet that prices have found their floor.

The building society said government initiatives to boost lending and help first-time buyers get on the property ladder were welcome but would not turn things around.

"For the most part, buyers will remain cautious as long as they think that prices will continue to fall," said Fionnuala Earley, Nationwide's chief economist.
"Economic fundamentals will continue to dominate housing market prospects," she added.

Britain's economy is expected to shrink by more than 3 percent this year, its sharpest contraction since the Second World War.

While record-low interest rates have fuelled a rise in homebuyer enquiries, mortgage lenders are still reluctant to lend to those without a significant equity cushion.

Job insecurity is also a powerful deterrent. The number of Britons out of work has risen to a decade high above 2 million and is expected to hit 3 million by the end of the year.
Please take the time to have a look around my Daughter's website www.daisypalmertrust.co.uk
(MSE Andrea says ok!)
«13456713

Comments

  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    edited 30 April 2009 at 7:55AM
    how come the updated version of this graph isn't poster anymore by the doom and gloom ghetto

    _45266581_house_prices_04_12.gif
  • ad9898_3
    ad9898_3 Posts: 3,858 Forumite
    I think this was to be expected, more enquiries or even more sales doesn't necessarily mean a floor as been found, this time of year is traditionaly the busiest time of the year, I expect Halifax to post a similar small negative/positive, however with the economic factors being grim, I don't see any kind of floor while this remains the case.

    Of course, I'm sure even this negative will be spun into a positive by the media, what they fail to understand though is houseprices never rise 2% a month every month in a boom, neither will they fall 2% every month in a bust, however I do expect to see larger drops MoM, later on in the year, but maybe not as many as we had last year.
  • ad9898_3
    ad9898_3 Posts: 3,858 Forumite
    chucky wrote: »
    how come the updated version of this graph isn't poster anymore by the doom and gloom ghetto

    _45266581_house_prices_04_12.gif

    Because we all know that once the YoY figures have worked through, if you don't know how the graph works (as I'm sure some noobs wouldn't) it can look like falls, to the untrained eye have stopped, when in actual fact they haven't.

    A more representative graph now, would be falls over time from peak, which would still show rises in any monthly figure, but whould also show the overall trend as going down, at this time, at least.
  • julieq
    julieq Posts: 2,603 Forumite
    Why do you expect that ad? Tealeaves fall in a particular shape this morning, or is it just complete guesswork?
  • ad9898_3
    ad9898_3 Posts: 3,858 Forumite
    julieq wrote: »
    Why do you expect that ad? Tealeaves fall in a particular shape this morning, or is it just complete guesswork?

    Well I suppose in the end it is just that, guesswork, just like anyone on here who makes a prediction about the future, no need to be @rsey about it:D, it is after all just an opinion like anyone else's, I try to take in as much info as I can find, and then post a comment on what I believe that information has told me.

    So not quite tealeaves, I don't just have an opinion based on nothing at all, otherwise there would be little point posting it.;)
  • seems like the Pound is happy this morning

    against the Dollar its up from 1.4790 to 1.4890
    in last couple of hours
    Please take the time to have a look around my Daughter's website www.daisypalmertrust.co.uk
    (MSE Andrea says ok!)
  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    Here is the actual link to the report
    http://www.nationwide.co.uk/hpi/historical/apr_2009.pdf

    Interestingly, house prices actually rose 0.6% from £150,946 to £151,861
    The reported 0.4% drop is a seasonally adjusted figure.

    Given that the market confidence is lower than in years gone past, it makes sense that the seasonaally adjusted expectations should be less than in years gone by
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    chucky wrote: »
    how come the updated version of this graph isn't poster anymore by the doom and gloom ghetto

    Ok, not the same graphe but some interesting ones taken from the Nationwide report

    nwg.png
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    chucky wrote: »
    how come the updated version of this graph isn't poster anymore by the doom and gloom ghetto

    With the above graphs and the below graph on peoples expectations, there does seem to be a turn in peoples beliefs

    expectations.png
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • With the above graphs and the below graph on peoples expectations, there does seem to be a turn in peoples beliefs

    expectations.png

    not sure I agree w above re:beliefs. I think sentiment has actually remained pretty good right the way through - so far at least. Think the general sentiment about houses hasn't been shaken that much at all considering
    Prefer girls to money
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 352.1K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.6K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454.2K Spending & Discounts
  • 245.1K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 600.8K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.5K Life & Family
  • 258.9K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.