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How long to pay it all back? 2070?

vivatifosi
vivatifosi Posts: 18,746 Forumite
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Want to pose this as a series of questions rather than a statement:

Alistair Darling budget 2009:
“worst economic global turmoil felt for 60 years”

Well, the UK paid the last of its WW2 debts in 2006, 61 years after the end of WW2:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4757181.stm

If that's the case, how long will all this take to pay back?

Further, will there be more than a two-year break next time between ending payment of previous swinging long term debt and the crisis starting over?

Does this mean for the rest of my life (I'm unlikely to be here in 60 years) I'm going to be shouldering the burden of this government's failure to repair the roof while the sun was shining?

I can see lots of articles in the papers about how much money is being spent, but nothing as to when it has to be paid back.
Please stay safe in the sun and learn the A-E of melanoma: A = asymmetry, B = irregular borders, C= different colours, D= diameter, larger than 6mm, E = evolving, is your mole changing? Most moles are not cancerous, any doubts, please check next time you visit your GP.
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  • Spiv_2
    Spiv_2 Posts: 280 Forumite
    Who said we are going to pay it back? The BOE has bought £35b worth of debt so far - it will buy another £35b worth in the very near future - next month or two. The government has given permission for the BOE to buy a further £75b worth.....

    Who says it will end there? I think you are only looking at one side of the debt eqation, you re ignoring QE.
  • ad9898_3
    ad9898_3 Posts: 3,858 Forumite
    vivatifosi wrote: »
    I can see lots of articles in the papers about how much money is being spent, but nothing as to when it has to be paid back.

    What the government is doing, is exactly what the average chav, with there 10 credits were doing from 2001-2007, and we all know where that ends up.... bankruptcy, my feeling is that we will be going to the IMF within 3 years, as Darling's laughable forecasts from yesterday become history, as will our 'low interest economy', when the IMF force up IR's. Some people thought the 'Spring bounce' was the end of their woes, unfortunately, it's just the beginning. Buy a house now without a long term fix at your peril.
  • vivatifosi
    vivatifosi Posts: 18,746 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Mortgage-free Glee! PPI Party Pooper
    edited 23 April 2009 at 9:56AM
    Not out to ignore QE, spiv, just trying to understand things on my terms. If I take out a loan, any type - whether one that's small to me or a big one like a mortgage, I know what the likely terms are. Nobody is being told when we have to pay it back by and I don't think it is an unreasonable question as it is us, the tax payers, who have to pay it back.

    Edited to add: the 61 years to pay off WW2 debt was a bit of a shock tbh, just wanted to put it out there and see what others thought.
    Please stay safe in the sun and learn the A-E of melanoma: A = asymmetry, B = irregular borders, C= different colours, D= diameter, larger than 6mm, E = evolving, is your mole changing? Most moles are not cancerous, any doubts, please check next time you visit your GP.
  • ad9898_3
    ad9898_3 Posts: 3,858 Forumite
    Spiv wrote: »
    Who said we are going to pay it back? The BOE has bought £35b worth of debt so far - it will buy another £35b worth in the very near future - next month or two. The government has given permission for the BOE to buy a further £75b worth.....

    Who says it will end there? I think you are only looking at one side of the debt eqation, you re ignoring QE.

    Mmmmm, we can all see where this will end up

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  • Dan:_4
    Dan:_4 Posts: 3,795 Forumite
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    ad9898 wrote: »
    What the government is doing, is exactly what the average chav, with there 10 credits were doing from 2001-2007, and we all know where that ends up.... bankruptcy, my feeling is that we will be going to the IMF within 3 years, as Darling's laughable forecasts from yesterday become history, as will our 'low interest economy', when the IMF force up IR's. Some people thought the 'Spring bounce' was the end of their woes, unfortunately, it's just the beginning. Buy a house now without a long term fix at your peril.

    The IMF are a joke, and there prediction 'history' is no better then Darling's.
  • tomterm8
    tomterm8 Posts: 5,892 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    vivatifosi wrote: »
    Not out to ignore QE, spiv, just trying to understand things on my terms. If I take out a loan, any type - whether one that's small to me or a big one like a mortgage, I know what the likely terms are. Nobody is being told when we have to pay it back by and I don't think it is an unreasonable question as it is us, the tax payers, who have to pay it back.

    It's not an unreasonable , but the answer in the budget is it will take at least ten years, but in reality the budget is a load of... nasty stuff... which is based on forecasts that are unlikely to come true.
    “The ideas of debtor and creditor as to what constitutes a good time never coincide.”
    ― P.G. Wodehouse, Love Among the Chickens
  • ad9898_3
    ad9898_3 Posts: 3,858 Forumite
    Dan: wrote: »
    The IMF are a joke, and there prediction 'history' is no better then Darling's.

    I'm not suggesting the IMF's forecasts are any better than Darling's, I'm just saying that we will be knocking on their door within 3 years.
  • Wookster
    Wookster Posts: 3,795 Forumite
    vivatifosi wrote: »
    I can see lots of articles in the papers about how much money is being spent, but nothing as to when it has to be paid back.

    There isn't a plan.

    To begin to repay the debt the government would have to run a surplus. That is just inconceivable.
  • vivatifosi
    vivatifosi Posts: 18,746 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Mortgage-free Glee! PPI Party Pooper
    edited 23 April 2009 at 10:02AM
    tomterm8 wrote: »
    It's not an unreasonable , but the answer in the budget is it will take at least ten years, but in reality the budget is a load of... nasty stuff... which is based on forecasts that are unlikely to come true.

    See, that's it, I can't see how this can all be cleared up in as short a time as 10 years. Still shocked that it could be as long as 60 though :eek:
    Please stay safe in the sun and learn the A-E of melanoma: A = asymmetry, B = irregular borders, C= different colours, D= diameter, larger than 6mm, E = evolving, is your mole changing? Most moles are not cancerous, any doubts, please check next time you visit your GP.
  • ad9898_3
    ad9898_3 Posts: 3,858 Forumite
    Wookster wrote: »
    There isn't a plan.

    To begin to repay the debt the government would have to run a surplus. That is just inconceivable.

    Bullseye.


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