Shopping trips to tempt jobless off dole

lostinrates

Here is a very real flaw. The person who asked me for help recently, very heavily in debt, had no job, lives and outwardly appearing ''desirable'' lifestyle on benefits and charity and debt. They had, very, very real credit cards. They went shopping, they saw what they wanted and bought anyway. Is their not a real risk of the same happening here? Is this, in some degree what actually HAS already been happening?

PasturesNew

I've always worked - I've never had spare money left over to go shopping. They forget that: low wages mean you don't have money left over.

cocktail

perhaps they can make a television programme out of it. and hell, people can vote to choose their favourite.

amcluesent

g>Affluence tasters could show them what they can achieve for themselves<

Yeah, right. More likely an "affluence taster" will motivate your average wee ned/chav dole scrounger to try some house-breaking, dealing blow or muggings.

I wouldn't want to be the unfortunate store-keeper who suffered the pilfering and criminal damage which would inevitably result from the under-class being shown around.

"Yes! As an unskilled tatooed illiterate you can earn minimum wage. Oh, but we will reduce your benefits by the same or more, and you can't lie in bed 'til midday smoking weed."

olly300

amcluesent wrote: »

g>Affluence tasters could show them what they can achieve for themselves<

Yeah, right. More likely an "affluence taster" will motivate your average wee ned/chav dole scrounger to try some house-breaking, dealing blow or muggings.

Personally when I first heard of this scheme on breakfast news I thought - shoplifters paradise.

shewhoguards

amcluesent wrote: »

g>Affluence tasters could show them what they can achieve for themselves<

Yeah, right. More likely an "affluence taster" will motivate your average wee ned/chav dole scrounger to try some house-breaking, dealing blow or muggings.

I wouldn't want to be the unfortunate store-keeper who suffered the pilfering and criminal damage which would inevitably result from the under-class being shown around.

"Yes! As an unskilled tatooed illiterate you can earn minimum wage. Oh, but we will reduce your benefits by the same or more, and you can't lie in bed 'til midday smoking weed."

...because longtime dole claimants are inevitably also violent and on the edge of becoming criminals IF ONLY TEMPTED?

It's a stupid idea. I've been unemployed and struggling to find work for long periods. Someone showing me what I could have if only I could find work might just have pushed me too far into depression to bounce back for the fiftieth interview. But you're still a prejudiced idiot.

1echidna

I remember hearing about the 'Stephen Hawkings' test. Profoundly disabled Hawkings can hold down a job as a professor therefore all disabled people can work at something or other. Totally unrealistic except in a world where employers would take on people who could not pull their weight as a social service. It seems that society tends to just blame the victim or comes up with schemes like this which can only be described as ludicrous.

PasturesNew

1echidna wrote: »

I remember hearing about the 'Stephen Hawkings' test. Profoundly disabled Hawkings can hold down a job as a professor therefore all disabled people can work at something or other. Totally unrealistic except in a world where employers would take on people who could not pull their weight as a social service. It seems that society tends to just blame the victim or comes up with schemes like this which can only be described as ludicrous.

Except that Prof H is a specialist and well paid - and the College he works for like to keep him on the payroll because they want to attract research funding and raise their profile globally.

He'd make for a cr4p ice-cream seller.

bo_drinker

T b h there are some around here on benefits who are driving a better car than me and have the big tv's etc. My old Golf tdi does me and I do not want a big tv, but they are happy to get it and let the rest of us pay for it, easier than working ??

Austin_Allegro

What about sending Labour MPs on trips to Zimbabwe to show them what printing money can do?

Honestly, you couldn't make this up. The reason you have long term benefit-dependent people is because they get more for sitting around doing nothing than they would working. Why is this so hard to understand? And with unemployment soaring, what jobs can they get now anyway?

They are quite capable of seeing what money can buy via QVC and don't even have to get off the sofa!