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My daughter was awarded CSA from her childs absent father. The arrears where to be paid by 15th March, she rang the CSA as the money was not in her account on the said date and they told her to ring back. She rang back at the end of last week and was told the CSA told her money should be in her account by today. Money is still not in account, shes rang the CSA again and she has been informed that the Childs fathers bank has refused DD due to insufficient funds. The next payment is due 31st March, and its looking unlikely she will receive that either. What can she do? Surely the CSA knew they hadnt received the money last week. Daughter has rang childs father and told him to contact CSA, he says he cant contact them today, I think its stalling tactics.
Is she out of order if she tells him she cant see his son until he starts paying? He hasnt paid a penny since sept 08

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  • yes i think it's wrong to stop contact unless he pays, your grandson suffers twice then - doesn't have the extra money and misses out on time with his dad. also your daughter is stooping to his level. i would contact csa and ask what proceedures they need to go through before they can put a deo on him, then the money is deducted straight from his pay packet, it might be worthwhile your daughter mentioning this to her ex as it might scare him into paying on time!!
  • Nicky321 wrote: »
    Is she out of order if she tells him she cant see his son until he starts paying? He hasnt paid a penny since sept 08

    Unless he is a danger to them, it's wrong to deprive any child of their father, their young memories are too priceless. Maintenance and access are separate issues, he'll get a contact order and it creates lots of mess because the resident parent becomes responsible for making the contact order work.

    Has your daughter tried speaking to him and asking why the money is stopped? It could be something legitimate, redundancy.

    Ask the CSA to see if he's opened another bank account, he may have just stopped using the DD account.
  • Nicky321
    Nicky321 Posts: 1,426 Forumite
    Thanks for the replies, I understand about the access part of it. He doesnt see him as much as my daughter would like because he just doesnt seem to want to. He sometimes has him over night, approx 1 a week, picks him up around 7pm and drops him off morning after. She would like him to have him for more like 24 hours, but he likes his life too much. she has emailed the CSA with her query and they should reply within 10 days, next payment is due 31st March. He knew this money was going to be deducted about 2 months back, I think he should have made sure the money was there.
  • kelloggs36
    kelloggs36 Posts: 7,712 Forumite
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    Is he self employed? If not, then they should be at least threatening him with a DEO if he fails to pay. Ask them when they will do this.
  • Nicky321
    Nicky321 Posts: 1,426 Forumite
    kelloggs36 wrote: »
    Is he self employed? If not, then they should be at least threatening him with a DEO if he fails to pay. Ask them when they will do this.
    I will ask her to ring again in a few days.
  • maybe he had no money in his account, its happening a lot these days,

    is you kid on pay per view ?

    csa has a lot to do with access and seeing children , as payments of csa go down (insignificantly) if nrp has child(ren) a certain number of nights to stay.
  • Nicky321
    Nicky321 Posts: 1,426 Forumite
    charlie... wrote: »
    maybe he had no money in his account, its happening a lot these days,

    .
    He had no money in his account for his child, but he can afford tattoos, alcohol and trivialities.
  • Loopy_Girl
    Loopy_Girl Posts: 4,444 Forumite
    Nicky, please ignore the poster above you. She is a bitter NRPP who uses another name - Jacklink (check her previous posts for her vileness and if you fancy a laugh at the whopping lies she tells and gets found out for!!!:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: ) and is a known troll.

    What a sad sad little life to have to use different names on a website.......:rolleyes:
  • Soubrette
    Soubrette Posts: 4,118 Forumite
    charlie... wrote: »
    maybe he had no money in his account, its happening a lot these days,

    is you kid on pay per view ?

    csa has a lot to do with access and seeing children , as payments of csa go down (insignificantly) if nrp has child(ren) a certain number of nights to stay.

    To be fair it only goes down 'significantly' if the NRP is making a 'significant' contribution in the first instance.

    For example my lying ex will have to pay an extra £2 per week if his nights fall below the one per week that he manages now. Yep - he'll pay a whole £17 towards each of his daughters instead of the derisory £15.

    He has already used this as an excuse to prevent one my daughters coming home one night :rolleyes:

    However, I have not limited access to him at all. The girls are older and I feel can choose to see him (or not) whenever they want - if they were younger then they would have no choice, they would see him each agreed weekend until I felt they were old enough to make an informed decision.

    It's what being a parent is about - doing the best you can for your child, even if it is something that you'd rather not do.

    Sou
  • Nicky321
    Nicky321 Posts: 1,426 Forumite
    Loopy Girl & Soubrette, thankyou for your replies. I personally dont have anything against NRP, but feel they should pay towards the upkeep of their children. My daughter did not end the relationship with her babys father, it was him who ended it, after playing around behind her back on more that one occassion. He even told the CSA he has him more than the 1 time a week to reduce payments, but truth be he doesnt really have him 1 time per week. I feel its just his way of getting out of paying.
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