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Really basic CCA questions

Hello, I try to read the forum but sometimes its hard to keep up and review the long threads so please forgive me if this is already posted on here

Q1 - am i right in thinking Overdrafts on Current Accounts are not covered by CCAs - so I shouldnt waste my time

Q2 -what date did the account have to be opened by to be covered

Q3 - please can I have a link to the best letter to send.

Q4 - am i right in thinking it best to send by recorded deliver and not to sign?

Thank you all

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  • fermi
    fermi Posts: 40,542 Forumite
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    Hello, I try to read the forum but sometimes its hard to keep up and review the long threads so please forgive me if this is already posted on here

    Q1 - am i right in thinking Overdrafts on Current Accounts are not covered by CCAs - so I shouldnt waste my time

    Covered technically, but with an exemption from the OFT so that effectively they do not need an agreement that you can request.

    Q2 -what date did the account have to be opened by to be covered

    Accounts opened before 6th April 2007 must have a signed agreement with the correct terms on it to be enforceable in court.

    Agreements after that are still covered, but the decision is at the courts discretion.

    Q3 - please can I have a link to the best letter to send.

    Link: CCA request - Getting a copy of your credit agreement and account details.

    Q4 - am i right in thinking it best to send by recorded deliver and not to sign?

    Yes.

    Thank you all

    Hope that helps. :)
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  • RAS
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    It is cheaper to send it registered post however, still needs to be signed for but costs a quarter as much.
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  • 10past6
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    Why not request a "Proof of Posting Certificate" you only need a 1st class stamp ;)
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  • thanks all, can I probe on Question 1.....if the account was opened on say feb 08, would it be worth asking for a CCA, and are the creditors still obliged to respond with the signed agreement, or can they just ignore
  • Q1 - am i right in thinking Overdrafts on Current Accounts are not covered by CCAs - so I shouldnt waste my time

    Covered technically, but with an exemption from the OFT so that effectively they do not need an agreement that you can request.

    Q2 -what date did the account have to be opened by to be covered

    Accounts opened before 6th April 2007 must have a signed agreement with the correct terms on it to be enforceable in court.

    Agreements after that are still covered, but the decision is at the courts discretion.:confused:
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  • hi, thanks merlin for copying the asnwers above, but if itsat the courts discretion - does that mean you take them to court, or you refuse to pay, they add on loads of charges - go for a CCJ or something, and then you defend on the basis that its not enforceable???

    of course that assumes that there must be a reply from the creditor with a copy of the CCA otherwise you wouldnt be able to defend?

    sorry if I am missing something

    Cheers
  • GeorgeUK
    GeorgeUK Posts: 7,737 Forumite
    If you send a CCA, they do not need to supply a copy of the original agreement. They do not need to supply any signature on any copy they send.

    You could try sending a subject access request (cost £10) so that under the Data Protection Act they do need to provide a copy of the original agreement, complete with signatures. There is a pretty good chance that the original creditor will still have a copy of this though.
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