Housing Waiting Lists to top 2 million

StevieJ

Pssst wrote: »

There is no housing shortage in this country. It is a situation which is being artificially created by those with an interest so that they and their cronies can profit by it.

See here
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dooper786/test/pf1.html

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Do you see anything wrong with them? answer..no

Remind me not to ask you to do a survey for me

Pssst

Really2 wrote: »

Will that house 2 million? I dont know of any propertys that are empty but if their were 1 million empty houses that would make it 1 in 25

Do people really see 1 in 25 house free or are we including in habital stone built houses etc that need to be demolished and rebuilt.

Also surely even if their is an excess of houses it does not mean they are in the area needed.

Beleive me,that is just a small sample of the housing being torn down all over the country under pathfinder.

I have other pics but if youve seen one house,youve seen em all. I picked the above pic becuase they are relatively modern houses.

Do a google for Prescott and pathfinder. you might be surprised at what you read.

Ordinary hard working people are being thrown out of their homes and their homes bulldozed to make way for pathfinder. These are often owner occupiers. Its almost like a spanish style landgrab.

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/liverpool/2005/02/305219.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/3313642/MPs-condemn-disastrous-pathfinder-scheme.html

http://www.rudi.net/node/19846

Yet another Labour criminal enterprise which the public seem largely unaware of.

dgl1001

StevieJ is right. The shortage in housing means that households can't be formed properly and therefore need to live in accomodation which does not meet their needs. Simply stating that their are some houses for sale and therefore there cannot be a housing shortage, is well .... not really looking at all of the facts. A bear was posting on here the other day stating how their isn't a housing shortage and then later going on to moan (again) that he was saving for a desposit to house his family and that it would take him forever as prices were out our his reach - he clearly couldn't make the link between the high demand for family housing and the lack of supply, which in part has driven up prices. Remember, if there wasn't a shortage, then everyone would be able to buy the property they needed - this simply isn't the case.
But everyone has a choice in relation to the housing shortage, they can either acknowledge it and do something about it, or do nothing and deny it even exists. The problem with the bears though, is that if the opportunity does arise to purchase a house they need, at the right price, they will miss it, as they are to transfixed on their self belief that therr is no shortage and that THEY ARE ALWAYS RIGHT!!!!!

Pssst

StevieJ wrote: »

Remind me not to ask you to do a survey for me

OK joking aside,these very same houses were only built about 20 years previous. They are modern,central heated,have front/back gardens and had families living in them only a year ago. They were boarded up and left to rot and be ripped apart by scavengers,many being fired by vandals and scrap hunters.

The key point is that they stand on valuable ground being only about 3/4 mile from city centre manchester here

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=rylance+street+manchester&sll=53.475379,-2.210484&sspn=0.011775,0.027637&ie=UTF8&ll=53.478265,-2.20602&spn=0.011774,0.027637&z=15&iwloc=addr

So a developer gets its hands on a valueable piece of brownfield development site.

Meanwhile close by were streets and streets of older style terraces. The Local authority compulsory purchased them and threw the owners out under pathfinder. Many of them barricaded the roads,put up signs and posters to try and protect the homes they worked for and wanted to live in but to no avail.

see

http://www.fightforourhomes.com/

Guy_Montag

Pssst wrote: »

Do you see anything wrong with them? answer..no

The occupants?

Really2

Pssst wrote: »

OK joking aside,these very same houses were only built about 20 years previous. They are modern,central heated,have front/back gardens and had families living in them only a year ago. They were boarded up and left to rot and be ripped apart by scavengers,many being fired by vandals and scrap hunters.

The key point is that they stand on valuable ground being only about 3/4 mile from city centre manchester here

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=rylance+street+manchester&sll=53.475379,-2.210484&sspn=0.011775,0.027637&ie=UTF8&ll=53.478265,-2.20602&spn=0.011774,0.027637&z=15&iwloc=addr

So a developer gets its hands on a valueable piece of brownfield development site.

Meanwhile close by were streets and streets of older style terraces. The Local authority compulsory purchased them and threw the owners out under pathfinder. Many of them barricaded the roads,put up signs and posters to try and protect the homes they worked for and wanted to live in but to no avail.

see

http://www.fightforourhomes.com/

Is the point not that these estates were so rough pepole would not buy the homes.

Many on here could pick a similar house up for less than £50K (most probably arround £20K).

But will they comute from there?
If there are these homes why do people not buy them? They would cost less than the average wage?

Pssst

Guy_Montag wrote: »

The occupants?

I appreciate the point but see my other comment on Labours dangerous social experimentations which are part of Pathfinder !

dgl1001

Psst - its a pathfinder area for a reason. high in crime and social deprivation. urban regeneration has been going on for years and years and is a good thing. by your logic people should still be living in the slums of the industrial revolution (they were pulled down over health and safety fears

adr0ck

PasturesNew wrote: »

There is only a shortage of affordable housing. Affordable housing means "about the same price as social housing".

People are on the list trying to get an affordable rent in a place they can stay in for years.

precisely

this post is about the lack/shortage of affordable properties for people to rent and to buy at affordable prices

mbga9pgf

We dont have a shortage of housing. The problem is massively over restrictive planning laws.

If we allowed building of decent homes in decent areas, say smaller 3 bed semi with a decent sized garden, the percentage of land covered with actual housing would be tiny.

I think people are sick of living like rats in Prescotts future slum estates.