finally zero again

strugglinon

hi, my ex has managed to get the csa award to NIL yet again.
only bein goin on 8 years !!

claimed to be unemployed
changed jobs more time than his undies
claimed to see my daughter more than he does
claimed to have her sleepin more than he does
claimed excessive mileage for contact costs, + work, costs at 34p per mile ( for his chieften tank i presume)
took a flat on as well as move in with his partner, just so he could take our daughter there twice a month !! but at least he lowered his available income !!!:mad:

now heclaims housing costs at 225 a week ( mansion there somewhere):T
his partner is a forensic pathologist and they now have a baby together, god help her !
altough he claims he only earns 250 pw at a bank leaving him only 25pw to support himself eg bills petrol food bringing up his child etc the CSA actually believe there is only his income supporting them :mad:
is there anything i can do or i can claim for ???
as when my partner and i asked for a contribution towards yet another school trip he threatened to beat my partner to a pulp !!
laughable really as my partner is an ex kick boxing instructer !
we spend £60 per month alone on her for after school activities but my ex still doesnt see why he should be asked for anything.
ive been told i can apply for departure for our housing costs against him but not sure wot this is or whether we would benefit ??
any help or advice is much appreciated as the CSA wil tell me absolutely nothing !!
for all i know hes prob saying she sleeps 3 nights a week and he sees her the other 4 just so he can avoid paying :mad:

please help

DONTQUOTEME

I'm assuming your on CS1 as you mentioned it's been going on for 8 years?
You could apply for a departure on his partners contribution to the housing costs. I think you can do this if they have a joint child and she earns more money than your ex.
Some else hopefully will clarify.

leighliz

Hi, I am in exactly the same situation as you and I did apply for a departure for housing costs, which was granted, and they reduced the amount he was claiming as housing costs by half, so its well worth a try. Good Luck!!

kelloggs36

It would reduce his allowable housing costs in proportion to how much he and his new partner earn, if she earns more than he, she gets most of the housing costs which increases the amount he can pay you. Go for it!

dimbo61

will it not be a max of 50% of the housing costs and as his new partner has just had a baby will she not be on Mat leave ?
I also though that only 50% of his income would be allowed against housing costs except when another child is in the household ( like it now is ! ) and then the full housing costs would be taken into account.

emlou2009

firstly you say he claimed to be unemployed but then later in your post you say he earns £250 a week working in a bank and has had the costs of travelling to work taken into account on his assessment, then you say he shouldnt have taken on a flat with his new partner - but they have had a baby!! he has a responsibility to his new child as well now, and think how you would feel if you had a baby with a new partner who wasnt able to contribute because all his money went to his ex. thats the situation i'm in at the moment, we're living in a tiny one bedroomed flat because his csa payments are so high we cant afford to rent a two bedroom, its not a nice situation to be in. people forget maternity pay is only 90% of weekly earnings for 6 weeks and then drops to £117 per week.

do you know how many nights he has told them she stays with him? if what he has told them is wrong have you challenged it?

kelloggs36

I'm with the OP on this one - the NRP was paying NOTHING for the children he helped to bring into this world and will probably continue to do so because he chose to have ANOTHER child who it seems is more important now. Take account of the fact that the NRP has children and financial responsibilites towards them BEFORE deciding to have more children, ie factor in the costs first before complaining that you have no standard of living - nobody forced you to have a child with somebody who already has one.

To the OP, it depends on whether the NRPP goes back to work - if their mortgage is as high as you say it is, she won't have a choice! There is no maximium of 50% - it is in proportion to their earnings if she provides the info, otherwise it is usually assumed a 50/50 split but can be anything up to 100%.

LizzieS_2

emlou2009 wrote: »

how you would feel if you had a baby with a new partner who wasnt able to contribute because all his money went to his ex. thats the situation i'm in at the moment.

people forget maternity pay is only 90% of weekly earnings for 6 weeks and then drops to £117 per week.

On your first point, it was also the situation before getting pregnant.

Your 2nd point does not apply to everyone - some people do get some contractual pay too. Don't know how people forget though, personally I saved in advance with all my children knowing my income was going to drop. I reaaly couldn't see any fairness in demanding a higher payment of my ex for his children just because I had chosen to have another and my income was less!

VfM4meplse

strugglinon wrote: »

his partner is a forensic pathologist

What a pathological liar needs is a psychiatrist, a pathologist always gets there too late! It never fails to surprise me when alarming personality traits become apparent only after splitzville.

strugglinon

thanks for all your replies
hi emlou, me and me partner have had a child some 5 years ago now and my partner brings my daughter up as wellas our own and works very hard to do so putting both children before himself without a second thought !
i am just annoyed that my ex cannot bring himself to help out financially knowing that they have a joint household income of over 70k per annum. and has tried every trick in the book to avoid payment which for me is very very frustrating:mad:
he took the flat on ASWELL as a new home to send his housing costs thru the roof, in my opinion to avoid any money been awarded to me ! hi kelloggs, she only took a fortnight off work as she is very very career minded and yes she earns more than double my ex's wage. the csa or the departure people have requested her earnings but he refuses to give them for obvious reasons !!:mad:
not knowing the exact amount of overnight stays as the csa refuse to give me any details !!!!
im not wanting to fleece him no matter how it seems, i wud just like him to own up to his responsibilties ! any payment is better than nothing !

would it be worth asking to be re assessed to get onto csa2 to be a straight % of his earnings ??

LizzieS_2

I did think the csa could only take housing costs for the house he actually lives in most, not 2 properties - check with Kellogs.

Her earnings are not really anything to do with the assessment itself. As a higher earner, the mortgage is possibly more weighted to her affordability than his, so I can see your frustration there. If he/she refuses to provide her income (which they can), the csa can assess what % of the mortgage she can pay - that can be anything from 50% to 100% (that then affects the assessment as your ex's housing costs change). No idea what the csa take into account in deciding the % housing costs - anything you can provide to show her potential earnings may or may not help there.

The csa should inform you if there is a discrepancy between the 2 of you over overnight stays.