A proper them and us case - holiday homes

white_noise

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/7936164.stm

WN

Generali

Holiday home owners too often seem to want the place set in aspic, not to be a vibrant community where people live and make money.

An old girlfriend (and very lovely she was too) lived in a beautiful hamlet called Richard's Castle. 2nd home owners tried to get the chicken farm closed for being too noisy and stop the dairy farmer moving his cows down the road for milking (they were noisy and shat everywhere).

PasturesNew

One of the problems with this type of thing is: who has the deepest pockets for a fight ... and it's always the holiday home owners.

There was another one recently, Helford Village, Cornwall, local little fisherman wanted to build a small jetty to land his fish on and all the objections came from very wealthy Londoners who were hardly ever in their holiday homes.. but they all ganged up.

Edit: Link http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7842209.stm

JayZed

I grew up in a fantastic and very picturesque village in Oxfordshire. We moved there in the 70s, at a time when a lot of middle-class "outsiders" like us were moving in - mostly professionals working in Oxford.

At the same time we moved there, an estate of about 25 low-cost houses was built in the village. The houses weren't particularly picturesque, but their location meant that they didn't impact on the beauty of the village. Still, it was a controversial project at the time and there was a lot of opposition from some residents.

In retrospect, there's no doubt that the estate saved the village - not least because it was all families with kids living there, which (just) saved the village primary school from closure - even with the estate there were only around 60 kids in the school, but that was just enough to keep it alive. The school was the heart of the village, and it ensured that the village retained a strong sense of community, and was (and still is) a marvellous place for kids to grow up.

I'm sure that if that estate had never been built, the school (which is now one of the best primary schools in the country) would have closed and the village would have become a picturesque but soulless second-home ghetto like Great Tew or East Portlemouth.

It may be too late for low-cost housing to save somewhere like East Portlemouth, though.

Arcaine

Generali wrote: »

Holiday home owners too often seem to want the place set in aspic, not to be a vibrant community where people live and make money.

An old girlfriend (and very lovely she was too) lived in a beautiful hamlet called Richard's Castle. 2nd home owners tried to get the chicken farm closed for being too noisy and stop the dairy farmer moving his cows down the road for milking (they were noisy and shat everywhere).

I know Richards Castle very well, used to walk blind drunk on a Friday night through it on my way home from a good night in the Bull in Ludlow, I used to go to College there many moons ago. My Mum still farms near Ludlow and is constantly complaining about the neighbours all of which are in their second homes.

Guy_Montag

I've said it before & I'll say it again.

Require planning permission for the change of use from a PPR to a second home*, with the caveat that this will not be granted unless there is no shortage of housing in the area.

i.e. if there is anyone on a council waiting list they cannot grant said permission

*A second home is a home that is occupied for less than 6 months of the year.

Job done.

Failing that break out the pitchforks & flaming brands.

white_noise

heres steve Riders objection

http://www.southhams.gov.uk/AnitePublicDocs/00130060.pdf

"First and foremost what the occupents of low cost housing need is local facilities, In east portlemouth there are none"
i wonder why that is!
i love the second to last paragraph! mentioning that he is not rich because he brought that house!
WN

Pennywise

Trouble is many councils will ONLY give holiday home planning permission to barn conversions, etc. That goes against all logic. Some won't actually let you convert and live in a barn conversion. So, the inevitable consequence is that some convertible barns that could make a nice home are being left to rot because they aren't attractive to the holiday home crowd, usually because of poor views or poor transport links.

longhotbath

Generali wrote: »

Holiday home owners too often seem to want the place set in aspic, not to be a vibrant community where people live and make money.

An old girlfriend (and very lovely she was too) lived in a beautiful hamlet called Richard's Castle. 2nd home owners tried to get the chicken farm closed for being too noisy and stop the dairy farmer moving his cows down the road for milking (they were noisy and shat everywhere).

Richards Castle in Shropshire? I had a school friend from there - very pretty! 45 ish now....

Generali

longhotbath wrote: »

Richards Castle in Shropshire? I had a school friend from there - very pretty! 45 ish now....

Near Ludlow. She'll be 37 now.

Lovely girl.

purch

Holiday home owners too often seem to want the place set in aspic, not to be a vibrant community where people live and make money

Do NOT get me started !!!!! :mad: