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My income

At the moment, my income is supporting us as a family. I have 3 children. My husband has been re assessed and his payments reduced. As his ex wife is a bit of a mare we are anticipating she is going to kick up a fuss. Will the CSA insist on me proving my income? What if I had won the lottery and my hubs could afford to give up work? Looking at the situation from an emotionless point, my step child is nothing to do with me, biologically I mean.
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  • Legally the CSA cannot insist you provide your details (financial or otherwise). They may try to bully you into this but if you don't want to then stand firm.
  • Thanks. I have no intention of providing my personal details.
  • marksoton
    marksoton Posts: 17,516 Forumite
    If your husband is on CSA1 then his ex may apply for a departure. If she does this and your details are requested and you refuse you may find his assessment will go up because they will make assumptions.
  • He is on CSA2

    I have a good job and my son contributes to the household pot. Will they insist my son provides details as well? What the heck has HE got to do with all of this? I will outright flatly refuse. His ex is nothing to do with me and my son most definately isn't either.
  • marksoton
    marksoton Posts: 17,516 Forumite
    I don't blame you. And as he is on CSA2 it should not be an issue anyway.
  • marksoton wrote: »
    And as he is on CSA2 it should not be an issue anyway.

    What's the difference? If hubby has wage slips to prove his income and she says (cos she's a devious cow) he cannot sustain his lifestyle on what he earns (forgetting or unaware that I CAN and my son contributes) can the CSA do anything then?
  • Donedoingdebt
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    No, it should not be a problem.
    CS2 is usually based soley on the NRP's net income. As long as he has evidence of his income, then only these details should be needed.
    I'm not quite sure if benefits such as Child & working tax credits count as income on CS2.
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  • No, it should not be a problem.
    CS2 is usually based soley on the NRP's net income. As long as he has evidence of his income, then only these details should be needed.
    I'm not quite sure if benefits such as Child & working tax credits count as income on CS2.

    Its a crazy system but tax credits do count on CS2.

    The rules go something like thus...

    If its a joint claim (and it should be if you are living together) CTC and WTC are added to the NRP income, however if the NRP's partner/wife/husband is the major wage earner, then the WTC part of the claim is NOT included.

    Its a bit silly really cos that means the NRP's partners claim for thier own children's CTC is used to pay for the (non related) RP's child :mad: (if you get what I mean)

    Of course you get the (ha) reduction for the children that the NRP now has to support that live with him in his "new" relationship

    Hope this helps

    Oh and all I did to "prove" to the CSA that my wife was the major wage earner was to say to them go and speak to the inland revenue they have all the tax returns and details and they will confirm that my wife earns more than me. The CSA duly did this and came back to me to say yup thats right and low my maintenance payment to my ex went down, and she went mad at the CSA.
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  • Soubrette
    Soubrette Posts: 4,118 Forumite
    I have a friend with 3 children who's husband has done exactly that - he has given up work and pays not one penny towards the upkeep of his children.

    Sou
  • kelloggs36
    kelloggs36 Posts: 7,712 Forumite
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    Under CS2 your income isn't taken into account at all - child tax credits are in fact a joint claim and so cannot be deemed to belong to you solely. They are taken into account but any working tax credits are only taken into account in full if the NRP is the main earner, half if you earn the same, or none if you are the main earner.

    Lifestyle inconsistent with declared income cases are difficult to prove and she will have to appeal to a tribunal to stand any chance of winning and she will have to have a lot of evidence. If you are supporting your partner and can prove it, then you have nothing to worry about.
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