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Possible chance of Promotion, Pregnant but they don't know yet

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  • bigheadxx
    bigheadxx Posts: 3,047 Forumite
    bigheadxx wrote: »
    Whilst there are no legal requirements on employees to inform their employers that they are pregnant or a new mother they should bear in mind that their employer is not required to take any specific action until written notification has been provided. It is therefore important for the employee and her child's health and safety that employers should advise their employees to provide written notification as early as possible. Employers can also ask for a certificate from their employee's GP or midwife stating that she is pregnant

    You have a duty for the sake of your own an others health and safety.

    It is a moral duty and it is in the interests of Health and Safety to inform your employer that you are pregnant.
  • surreysaver
    surreysaver Posts: 5,292 Forumite
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    bigheadxx wrote: »
    It is a moral duty and it is in the interests of Health and Safety to inform your employer that you are pregnant.

    It is a moral and legal duty for an employer not to discriminate against pregnant women...
    I consider myself to be a male feminist. Is that allowed?
  • bigheadxx
    bigheadxx Posts: 3,047 Forumite
    It is a moral and legal duty for an employer not to discriminate against pregnant women...

    Which is exactly why she should tell her employer. She has protection.
  • surreysaver
    surreysaver Posts: 5,292 Forumite
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    bigheadxx wrote: »
    Which is exactly why she should tell her employer. She has protection.

    No - she is protected against discrimination by not telling them - how can they refuse to give her the job because she is pregnant if they do not know she is pregnant?
    I consider myself to be a male feminist. Is that allowed?
  • -BA-
    -BA- Posts: 377 Forumite
    That was me

    1) Annual pay increase, my pregnancy shouldn't affect it eitherway, but let's be realistic it potentially will

    2) Extra training has to be written into budget to be approved for 2010, by which time I will be back at work

    Maybe you should remember that you don't always know the full situation, is the view a bit blurry from your mount of self-righteousness?


    If you don't want people to comment, don't post....simple. You yourself typed, "Bit sneaky, I know". You acknowledged your tactics were somewhat underhand and questionable. So you have merely reinforced my statement. As I said don't post half a story and expect people not to make a comment.

    And quite where in the world you feel the right to call me self-righteous is outrageous. I have already stated I fully approve of maternity pay but to shaft your own colleagues and the company by using, what can only be classed as a grey area in the law, is quite a bit beyond sneaky. We aren't talking about a straightforward application for maternity leave here, we are talking about someone taking a position of responsibility, knowing full well that within a matter of weeks they will then be signing off absent for a considerable number of months. How can that person be anywhere near the best person for the job? The best person for the job (male OR female) is going to be the one who is ready to hit the ground running and deliver the performance expected, not the one who is going to sail off into the maternity sunset! How you can say I am self-righteous for commenting on that is a disgrace.
  • Glamazon
    Glamazon Posts: 8,401 Forumite
    Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who has posted (even if at one point I thought it was turning into a heated debate!)

    Just to clear some things up....................................

    I am already a manager (perhaps I should be more open and honest but my employers treat people like sh1te)

    The promotion would be easier for me personally after bubba is born as it would be a regional job looking after 4 sites and making sure they hit targets, offer new services etc than actively managing one site as I do now.

    I wouldn't need any training as it's a very similar position.

    No-one else would go for the job, it's not an option. There are only 2 others in a position to and they have no experience and have been in the job 5 mins. My employers always promote within where possible.

    From a healthy and safety point, I'm office based so really can't see what could happen if they didn't know - just because I said my employer doesn't know, doesn't mean I haven't confided in my assistant who can inform someone IF anything happens.

    I currently get very carp pay for the job I do because I don't do finance (not my choice, theirs and is why they have lost £120K this last year!), I get no sick pay (in 5 years have only been signed off after 2 operations), I have 2 weeks holiday left to take which they won't let me carry over but also don't want me to take as we are too busy! I work way more than my 37hours a week (in fact i'm doing work from home now!) and I get no appreciation whatsoever so yes in a way I don't want to tell them if it will benefit me.

    I think I will wait and see what happens over the next few weeks.

    Thanks again for your various points of view.
    A very busy Yummy Mummy to a 1 year old gorgeous boy :smileyhea

    Where does the time go? :think:
  • bigheadxx
    bigheadxx Posts: 3,047 Forumite
    Glamazon wrote: »

    From a healthy and safety point, I'm office based so really can't see what could happen if they didn't know - just because I said my employer doesn't know, doesn't mean I haven't confided in my assistant who can inform someone IF anything happens.
    .

    I am very glad you have given some thought to Health and Safety and I hope everything goes well for you.
  • Glamazon
    Glamazon Posts: 8,401 Forumite
    bigheadxx wrote: »
    I am very glad you have given some thought to Health and Safety and I hope everything goes well for you.


    Your not Mario from Big Brother are you? LOL :rotfl:

    Only kidding - thanks very much
    A very busy Yummy Mummy to a 1 year old gorgeous boy :smileyhea

    Where does the time go? :think:
  • skintchick
    skintchick Posts: 15,114 Forumite
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    Hey Glam

    I was in a similar situation recently after being made redundant when PG (they didn;t know but did know I'd recently had a miscarriage and that therefore i was trying) and I was offered a three-month contract.

    I decided to tell them when they offered the job that I was Pg and would need time off for scans, etc.

    Now I know it's not the same because I was only ever going to be there three months and they won;t have to pay maternity, but I felt I should tell them because I'm a very honest person.

    Having said that, I can see why in your position you wouldn;t want to and I don;t see why you should. If I were you, I'd stay quiet until I got the job and THEN tell them, ideally after any probationary period,

    If you're planning to go back after maternity leave then they aren;t really losing much and they are probably gaining quite a lot.

    As for Pinkshoes, I'm afraid that you sound rather bitter and I question your assertion that work is a 'lifestyle choice' and that we're spending 40+hours a a week there.

    For some of us work really IS just a way ot pay the bills which we hope might not be too awful, and I don;t spend more than my allotted hours there very often so for me it's a 37.5-hour week usually!

    Work for you may be everything but there are those of us who have that thing called work-life balance.
    :cool: DFW Nerd Club member 023...DFD 9.2.2007 :cool:
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  • surreysaver
    surreysaver Posts: 5,292 Forumite
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    skintchick wrote: »
    Work for you may be everything but there are those of us who have that thing called work-life balance.

    Absolutely! I work to live - I do not live to work!
    I consider myself to be a male feminist. Is that allowed?
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