Born in Scotland - The Recession

IveSeenTheLight

scousethife wrote: »

Something I noticed there are 2 monsters invented by total liars.

The abomnible snow man and the loch ness monster. (Tibet and Scotland)

Now you can kind of forgive a backward 3rd world country for still haveing tales of monsters to tell around the fire at night. After all they are an isolated, simple people.

But come on Tibet I cant belive you do aswell :rotfl:

It' easy to stereotype any area, such as it would appear you have misspelled your username.
The last two letters are the wrong way round

eh eh eh alright alright, calm down, calm down
day do dat down der do dont de do
<float arms like a string puppet>

kennyboy66_2

Dear me, it was a joke - but the serious point is that for Labour to try and blame the recession on others is equally ludicrous.

However, if people doubt that there will be a growing resentment that certain regions of the UK enjoy a more than fair share of government spending then I suspect they are deluding themselves. It is just more apparent in Scotland where University fees have been abolished, prescription charges are set to be phased out, and the elderley get free personal health care.
All kindly paid for by a Barnett formula introduced 30 years ago as a temporary measure.

IveSeenTheLight

kennyboy66 wrote: »

Dear me, it was a joke - but the serious point is that for Labour to try and blame the recession on others is equally ludicrous.

However, if people doubt that there will be a growing resentment that certain regions of the UK enjoy a more than fair share of government spending then I suspect they are deluding themselves. It is just more apparent in Scotland where University fees have been abolished, prescription charges are set to be phased out, and the elderley get free personal health care.
All kindly paid for by a Barnett formula introduced 30 years ago as a temporary measure.

What about when Scotland is used as guinea pigs for new undesireable policies i.e. poll tax?
There has to be balance

Actually, when God was drawing up the plans for Scotland he decided to give them beutiful landscapes, fresh flowing water, seas with plenty of fish etc etc etc. When asked why he bestows such benefits for one small country he replied, well you should see the neighbours their getting
<keeping up the point about this thread being a joke>

Conrad

Scots, I'm going to tread carefuly here.

I keep finding myself irritated that every other voice on Radio 4 is Scottish. I like the accent, but I dislike being treated like a child. The Beeb did this as some studies revealed the Scots accent equates with trust. How very banal that they should take this to heart.

Whilst I admire Scots greatly, there is at the same time a slightly irritating quality in that nearly all prominent Scots (including for example Council leaders, prominent business people, heads of social services) seem to be very conformist in thier choice of language.
Its almost as if they all think the same and have this desire to conform.

Some examples of buzz words that seem so beloved of prominent Scots (yes English use them, but not so robotically conformist):

SAY THESE IN A SCOTS ACCENT FOR FULL EFFECT:

1) We are working very closely with all stake holders (what the fuc does that mean)

2) Moving forwards

3) All agencieis are fully engaged with delivering this initiative

4) The challenge is... (whats wrong with a 'problem', why dress it up as a challenge - so immature and robotic)

IveSeenTheLight

Conrad wrote: »

1) We are working very closely with all stake holders (what the fuc does that mean)

2) Moving forwards

3) All agencieis are fully engaged with delivering this initiative

4) The challenge is... (whats wrong with a 'problem', why dress it up as a challenge - so immature and robotic)

1) It means that they are working with the people in authority to agree on a way of moving forward (see point 2)

2) Moving forward - this is something you should always strive to do. If you stand still in business, inevetably you move backwards

4) A problem is the fault / root cause. It does not provide the solution. A challange is how you are going to overcome the problem by way of achieving a satisfactory solution.

Kev09

Conrad wrote: »

Scots, I'm going to tread carefuly here.

I keep finding myself irritated that every other voice on Radio 4 is Scottish. I like the accent, but I dislike being treated like a child. The Beeb did this as some studies revealed the Scots accent equates with trust. How very banal that they should take this to heart.

Whilst I admire Scots greatly, there is at the same time a slightly irritating quality in that nearly all prominent Scots (including for example Council leaders, prominent business people, heads of social services) seem to be very conformist in thier choice of language.
Its almost as if they all think the same and have this desire to conform.

Some examples of buzz words that seem so beloved of prominent Scots (yes English use them, but not so robotically conformist):

SAY THESE IN A SCOTS ACCENT FOR FULL EFFECT:

1) We are working very closely with all stake holders (what the fuc does that mean)

2) Moving forwards

3) All agencieis are fully engaged with delivering this initiative

4) The challenge is... (whats wrong with a 'problem', why dress it up as a challenge - so immature and robotic)

That's not typical, not enough swear words !!!!

lukekelly_2

kennyboy66 wrote: »

Dear me, it was a joke - but the serious point is that for Labour to try and blame the recession on others is equally ludicrous.

The Labour government has some responsibility for the scale of the recession in the UK and their present inability to cope with the decrease in government revenues without borrowing heavily. The ludicrous idea though is that we wouldn't be in recession if they had acted differently.

Loath the government as you might this is a global recession and no developed country has escaped. Unless you hold the (unsupportable) view that this global recession has UK government policy over the last 10 years as its sole cause your statement is unsupportable.

Ironically enough it looks those countries with the largest manufacturing sectors will be the hardest hit, there's a real chance that the UK will come out much better than a `prudent' country like Japan. Life is cruel like that sometimes.

chopperharris

Kev09 wrote: »

That's not typical, not enough swear words !!!!

Its rhetoric , middle managment speak , big words used to sound clever.Wherever you work theres always these folk in charge , then they move on to the next job before the fit hits the shan and are found out.

Words like proactively are really my pet hate , I hear someone use it and I know they read a "idiots guide" to sounding like you know how to be a manger book.I cringe mentallly and physically like those averse to chalk on a board when I hear it uttered.

What it reminds me of is the politican in the " best little !!!!! house in texas" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mNDHTfdn1A&feature=PlayList&p=EC89C4AAA9AAE590&index=0 , or the joke how do you know a politician is lying?

Conrad

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

1) It means that they are working with the people in authority to agree on a way of moving forward (see point 2)

2) Moving forward - this is something you should always strive to do. If you stand still in business, inevetably you move backwards

4) A problem is the fault / root cause. It does not provide the solution. A challange is how you are going to overcome the problem by way of achieving a satisfactory solution.

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The point I was trying to make is every professional Scot I ever hear uses this 1990s cliche business speak rhetoric as a means to convey thier competence, but it conjours upobeidient speech robots without individuality

Think Douglas hecktoring Alexander saying - "I can assure you we are working very closely with all stake holders to meet
this challenge going forwards"

Does that not sound like the verbal equivalent of a pot noodle?


Using the word 'challenge' in place of 'problem' was novel for a while back in 1993, but most of us have outgrown such banality. A problem is fine with me - I dont need it dressed up as a Harringey council challenge. No doubt poor little Reece Jones was a challenge rather than a problem to be resolved.

IveSeenTheLight

Conrad wrote: »

Using the word 'challenge' in place of 'problem' was novel for a while back in 1993, but most of us have outgrown such banality. A problem is fine with me - I dont need it dressed up as a Harringey council challenge. No doubt poor little Reece Jones was a challenge rather than a problem to be resolved.

In my line of work I am constantly faced with problems, however it is not enough to go to my clients and say there is a problem without proposing a solution to that problem.

As an Independent Financial adviser, you must receive enquireies from customers facing problems for them getting mortgages.
Is it your problem or your challange to get round the problem with your customers?

The problem is the source, the challenge is to find a solution past the problem.

I don't see why you have such a problem with the use of the word "challenge"