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CCA help

I sent £1 to my creditors for the CCA's, theres 4 accounts and 2 have sent me what looks like photocopies of my credit agreement which has my signature.

The third one looks like a photocopy of my online application not a credit agreement.

The last one couldn't find the CCA and agreed to write it off.

all the debt are from 2004 and i requested the CCA's 6 months ago and have received no further response.

what am i looking for in these credit agreements that could let me write them off, what's the next step?

thanks.

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  • elaina79
    elaina79 Posts: 953 Forumite
    From what I'm aware off, the have to supply a signed copy of the agreement so it sounds as though the 3rd one you received hould be written off as well.
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  • fermi
    fermi Posts: 40,542 Forumite
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    Unless it is a proper credit agreement with the prescribed terms included, an application form is not normally a valid or enforceable CCA.

    This should help I think.
    IS MY AGREEMENT ENFORCEABLE (Via section 127(3) CCA1974).

    PRESCRIBED TERMS FOR THE PURPOSES OF SECTIONS 61(1)(0) AND 127(3) OF THE CONSUMER CREDIT ACT 1974 Taken from schedule.6 (1983/1553) regulations

    (If you just want to find out, skip the bits in between the stars it’s just some extra information)

    **What do we mean by unenforceable?

    In the Consumer Credit Act section 127 there is a provision for making an agreement unenforceable if it does not contain certain pieces of information.

    Subsections 1,2,3,4 state which pieces of information these are, and everything mentioned there must be included within the body of the agreement, if one is missing the agreement is unenforceable.

    How does unenforceable differ from enforceable with a court order only?

    When an agreement is unenforceable it means that the court or the judge cannot make a ruling on it. The court cannot make it enforceable.

    When an agreement is enforceable only by ruling of the court it means that the agreement can be stopped by the debtor but the court has the power to re-instate it and allow the credit to continue to enforce.**

    The Prescribed Terms are these:

    A Amount of credit

    A term stating the amount of credit

    B Repayments

    A term stating how the debtor is to discharge his obligations under the agreement to make the repayments, which may be expressed by reference to a combination of any of the following:-

    (a) Number of repayments;
    (b) Amount of repayments;
    (c) Frequency and timing of repayments;
    (d) Dates of repayments;
    (e) The manner in which any of the above may be determined; or in any other way, and any power of the creditor to vary what is payable.

    C Rate of interest

    A term stating the rate of interest to be applied to the credit issued under the agreement

    D Credit limit

    This may be a term or the manner in which it will be determined or that there is no credit limit.

    Which of these applies to you depends on the type of agreement you have?

    For a Running Account (credit card) agreement

    BC and D Apply

    For a Restricted Use Debtor Creditor Supplier
    • Where the dealer is the supplier and the creditor is the one providing the finance.
    • The money can only be used for the purpose it is given.
    • There is no interest on the purchase (the cash price is the same as the total price)
    • And there is no advance payment
    A is applicable

    For a fixed Sum Credit Agreement


    A conventional credit agreement with none of the above restrictions

    A and B apply

    For a Hire Agreement

    B is Applicable

    This paper only covers section 127(3) of the Act agreements can also be unenforceable by contravention of sections 1 and 4 this will be the subject of the next paper.

    Please note that these Prescribed terms where not changed in any way by the 2004/1482 Amendments although the form in which they appear on the agreement was. Subsection127(3) was repealed on the 6th of April 2007 so that unenforceability due to 127(3) will only apply to agreements executed before that date.
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  • 10past6
    10past6 Posts: 4,962 Forumite
    elaina79 wrote: »
    the 3rd one you received hould be written off as well.
    Debts are very, very seldom written of, unenforceable maybe, but written off, no.

    Unles you die of course ;)
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