Is the BBC Avoiding Critical Topics Like U.K Bankruptcy?

StevieJ

chrisweb wrote: »

First that is not a news broadcast, secondly that is not what I am talking about. That does not link Gordon Brown which C4, ITV and SKY all broadcast.
e.g: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPIxm195G5c

So where is the proof? you want him linked even though no evidence has been produced? I repeat when he produces the proof (thet he says he has) then I am sure the BBC will publish.

StevieJ

Graham_Devon wrote: »

That's nothing like the other news articles.

This is a thread I started elsewhere, on the exact same topic:
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=1493241

This demonstrates a massive bias towards protecting Gordon Brown.

You said
Surely this proves beyond all doubt the bias that the BBC hold? I know the story is not 'fact' yet, but that has never stopped the BBC when it reports other stuff that really, it should be showing. Just found this thread on the HPC forums and thought it was worth a mention as people say the BBC are not bias on here!


:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Are you accusing the BBC of not being sensational enough, never let the facts get in the way etc.

Graham_Devon

StevieJ wrote: »

You said
Surely this proves beyond all doubt the bias that the BBC hold? I know the story is not 'fact' yet, but that has never stopped the BBC when it reports other stuff that really, it should be showing. Just found this thread on the HPC forums and thought it was worth a mention as people say the BBC are not bias on here!


:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Are you accusing the BBC of not being sensational enough, never let the facts get in the way etc.

Sigh.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7891475.stm - May have to (not fact)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7891380.stm - Police accused, not fact.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7893890.stm - Former head of government accused, not fact.

Would you like me to continue so you can do some more rolling around laughing icons?

Now, if they can do those, howcome you are saying they should only do fact? Paul Moore Accused...

StevieJ

How sad, do you really think a few general comments are the same as accusing the Prime Minister of lying, I thought you were accusing the BBC of bias and even then you produce a story by Rimmington of how the Govt are turning the UK into a police state :eek: What are you guys trying to prove?

Graham_Devon

StevieJ wrote: »

How sad, do you really think a few general comments are the same as accusing the Prime Minister of lying, I thought you were accusing the BBC of bias and even then you produce a story by Rimmington of how the Govt are turning the UK into a police state :eek: What are you guys trying to prove?

I think it's been proved trying to debate with you is a lost cause.

One minute you say its not fact, next minute you dredge up a story that isn't even close, the next minute another story thats also not fact you try and turn into something I don't even understand....again. Now you are asking what we are trying to prove.

The story was headline news on most big newspaper sites, over 200 links through google news to all the main papers and news sites, apart from the BBC and Guardian.

Considering we all have to pay for the BBC whether we like it or not, and considering it is a public service broadcaster, this item, should have been available to us via the BBC. It was not, because they are protecting Gordon Brown.

Like I said on my thread, it WAS up, but got taken off. Why is that, do you think? Someone tell them to remove that particular item?

Wookster

Graham_Devon wrote: »

I think it's been proved trying to debate with you is a lost cause.

Yup - Stevie is most definitely a troll, uninterested in a rational discussion without resorting to name calling.

StevieJ

Wookster wrote: »

Yup - Stevie is most definitely a troll, uninterested in a rational discussion without resorting to name calling.

Hi Socky, wondered when you would pop up

StevieJ

Considering we all have to pay for the BBC whether we like it or not, and considering it is a public service broadcaster, this item, should have been available to us via the BBC. It was not, because they are protecting Gordon Brown.

What do you not understand about waiting for evidence that he says he has?

StevieJ

Graham_Devon wrote: »

I think it's been proved trying to debate with you is a lost cause.

One minute you say its not fact, next minute you dredge up a story that isn't even close, the next minute another story thats also not fact you try and turn into something I don't even understand....again. Now you are asking what we are trying to prove.

?

What is this Mumbo Jumbo :rolleyes:

chrisweb

Rochdale_Pioneers wrote: »

chrisweb - i suspect that you want your list reporting in a way as you set out - in a narrative. You're not stating facts you are painting a picture. You offer no context around any of those things because that goes against your narrative.

So lets look at the IMF forecast for the UK. And put it in the context of all the other IMF narratives which have been laughably wrong. Lets take the UK -1.5% in Q4 and compare it to other countries and ask if we're going to do -2.8% full year what others will do. Still happy for the BBC to report your facts?

Lets look at government debt as you want to. Lets look at how well it compares with so many other countries. Lets look at how how somewhere like Greece can manage on triple our debt vs GDP levels and isn't bankrupt. Still happy to discuss the facts?

In fact why stop there. Lets look at the growing number of unemployed in the UK and contextualise it as a percentage of the workforce. Then compare it places like Spain or France or Germany where its much higher and growing faster. As you seem so keen on bankrupt countries lets compare our foreign debts - and our assets which you fail to mention for "some reason" - and compare them to say Ireland, which is truly broken.

The problem is that none of this fits your narrative. What you want is facts to back up your belief that Britain is uniquely screwed and think that anything that disagrees is bias and spin. Have you looked in a mirror recently? BTW you can still criticise Brown and his phalanx of errors without making stuff up.

Just forget the prospect of UK bankruptcy and competition with being the worst against other countries. You seem to intent on defending the U.K economy to see the bigger picture.

At this point I don't know and I'm sure you don't either - we can just make educated guesses.

I've just been presented with a lot of very very convincing information from respected sources that suggest a different story to what is shown on the BBC. At the very least it should be addressed, rather than completely ignored.

Those facts I listed are facts. They may or may not support UK bankruptcy, but they are simply not reported. I agree there is a lot of facts and interpretation which point the other way. But also a lot of things need to play out first before a particular route is set in stone. So it is impossible to predict where this is heading as it depends on how certain events unfold.

What I'm pointing out is that only one side of the argument is addressed.

If you believe that BBC reporting is impartial then that's fine. I used to think the same. Then I started comparing coverage between different channels and also what many respected economists & investors were saying. There is undoubtedly a strong contrast.