'Doomsday' plan to renationalise BT

silvercar

bubblesmoney wrote: »

there must be some sort of trouble with BTs finances because someone i know was working for BT through another software company. even though the project was ongoing the outside contractor had to pull the plug on the project and relocate their employees out of BT projects because apparently BT hadnt cleared their payments and were overdue and hence the IT company decided to pull the plug on the contract midway through. it was a IT support project. so things might be bad with BTs finances if they arent paying companies they contract out work to. the person i know subsequently relocated abroad even though they were offered to relocate in the uk down south from northern ireland for another unrelated project which was still ongoing. but the said person didint want to keep moving around if that project was subsequently terminated as well. so they opted to go abroad for other projects of the IT company instead of working on any BT contract and have their personal plans repeatedly disrupted.

Article in today's Sunday Times about BT contractors. Apparently the budget for contractors has got out of hand and BT have plenty of employees capable of doing the work. So outside contractors have been dumped.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/telecoms/article5733752.ece

themanbearpig

Cleaver wrote: »

I love this kind of wacky stuff.

I've heard that they will nationalise BT, take over the internet, nationalise all optitians and they only way you'll be able to boot up your PC is with an eyeball reader that will be integrated in to every PC, which will be a law introduced in 2013.

You heard it here first.

Attitudes yours have allowed the government to take away a huge amount of our civil rights. The same rights your grandparents/parents died for. There is a fine line between a tin-foil-hat worthy comment, and plausable cynasism, but to believe the only truth is what you're told by the government or media is incredibly naive.
When you are aware of the current level of goverment secrecy, and outright lieing, surely it is not completely rediculous to believe that they have other agendas for everything.

Snooze

amcluesent wrote: »

The real reason to nationalise BT is simple - tax and censorship.

Clown is under orders from Barroso to get control of the internet, which they both hate for the freedom of speech it allows. They've tried the paedophile and terrorist bogey-man spin, but people still want to keep the web open.

As BT is the biggest ISP, it'll be easy for the Government to introduce a universal 'web account' so you need to input your ID Card details each time you use the web. Taxation based on time on-line and collation of all content, linked back to your fingerprints encoded on the ID card!

Before anyone says this is a paranoia, check out how the government has twisted arms in the police etc. to ensure that the Phorm profiling and content inspection system could be installed and used (secretly) by BT. Just testing...

If you've done nothing wrong etc. etc.

:eek: I hope you're wrong but the way this government works it wouldn't surprise me if it happens.

Rob

ukcarper

BT couldn't be allowed to go down no BT no telephone network to speak of

Cleaver

themanbearpig wrote: »

Attitudes yours have allowed the government to take away a huge amount of our civil rights. The same rights your grandparents/parents died for. There is a fine line between a tin-foil-hat worthy comment, and plausable cynasism, but to believe the only truth is what you're told by the government or media is incredibly naive.
When you are aware of the current level of goverment secrecy, and outright lieing, surely it is not completely rediculous to believe that they have other agendas for everything.

If your horse gets any higher you'll need a step ladder to get on it.

I also believe that our government do a lot of things that are shady, underhand and in their own interests. If you can find anywhere in my post where I said that 'I believe the only truth is what I'm told by the government and media' I will give you a paper hat.

But shall we focus on this thread? Someone posted an article which explained that the government were writing business continuity plans for the telecoms industry. Then someone else stated that this was the government taking over the internet so they could shut it down, or only let you log on with your ID card. I was mocking this view, as I think it's rubbish. Obviously the government don't have long term plans after privatising this industry not too far in the past.

As for the comment on what members of my family have died for, I wrote a few comments then deleted them all. I'll leave it at that.

epz_2

BT have a big problem in that they used to be the only phone supplier and had a monopoly. Nowadays there is 5 mobile phone companies, virgin and several other local loop unbundlers.

The days they could dominate the market are gone so if the government would likely just end up owing a huge liability in a decreasing share of an increasingly price competetive sector and unable streamline the business without political consequences.

Pssst

There are no big issues at BT. Plenty of pension schemes have deficits and this is just part of the natural ebb and flow.

Brian_Bullocks

Rochdale_Pioneers wrote: »

If its Pension scheme has been so badly managed that we need to pump £10bn in then why not take it over?

You think the wnankers at the treasury have any clue about running a real business? The Pension scheme has suffered, just as the rest of the Stock Market!!

Fire_Fox

sympatex wrote: »

As yet mobile broadband largely isn't comparable to fixed line so that's not really a good example.
I'm undecided about BT's future there's nothing wrong with any of the divisions except they are massively bloated! That will change overtime, it takes along time to work out the unionised bits from the past.

I was not aiming to compare like with like. Those of us with shorter-term living arrangements are either forced into long, costly contracts (particularly expensive if you only use a third of the contract) or make compromises such as accepting mobile broadband. It is because BT still have a monopoly on activating a fixed line, that the element of competition is compromised. That hits those in shorter-term accommodation - often young and/ or less well off - hardest.

prowla

I think they should take the "B" out of BT, because there's !!!!!!-all British about it.