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omelette451

Spikelad wrote: »

Thanks for the input guys i do have security clearance but i certainly dont know anything secret.

What do you mean by "security clearance"? And does that mean you work for a branch of government?

omelette451

Andy_L wrote: »

A thing to bear in mind is that if you do habitually spends lots of time in dodgy countries it can compromise your ability to get security clearance, thus costing you your job

And which would be the 'dodgy' countries then? For many people, off-the-beaten-track travelling is part of the joy of going away. Indeed, many of the world's 'rogue states' are supposed to be the most welcoming and most interesting to visit. I'm thinking of Iran and Venezuela here, among others, and I would have a big problem with any employer who punished me for wanting to go there or tried to read more into it than is really there.

debtfreein4years wrote:

its that simple it is for national security and can sometimes even extend to your children depending on what job you do.

So you're saying that someone could be in trouble with his employer because of what his children want to do in their spare time? Even when they're over 18 and supposedly free to live their own lives? Isn't this a bit over-controlling?

Deep_In_Debt

ceridwen wrote: »

My sympathies O.P. on this - personally I would just take the view that the job is what you do for a living and what you do in your leisure time is your business. Your employer is only paying for your workhours - not for you to be "owned body and soul 24/7".

You know in your own mind which countries you deem "safe" for yourself personally to visit - and anyone who doesnt know which are "safe" countries ought to have done their own personal "research".....so just go...and dont mention it at work.

To me personally - I take the view that I wont bother with visiting the Arabic countries (because I am a woman) and I wont bother visiting any countries that are currently in "war zone" status. Apart from that - its my business and only my business. Considering the countries I want to visit anyway are the "more civilised" ones....then it wouldnt be a problem anyway....but there is a principle at stake here.

Just go...! I've visited war torn countries...I knew the risks...so I accepted it. None of anyone's business where I go on holiday. I am female but have family living and working in dodgy areas of the world...if they are ok and have been for many years, then what is stopping me from going there...

Anyway, it has nothing to do with your employers as to where you holiday...just do it!

debtfreein4years

So you're saying that someone could be in trouble with his employer because of what his children want to do in their spare time? Even when they're over 18 and supposedly free to live their own lives? Isn't this a bit over-controlling?[/quote]

it depends and it is based on common sense, if your parents are in the military and the civil service and are high profile then it does extend to their children as they are seen as an easy target. get junior and daddy could end up telling everything and anything to get junior back.

it is a bit controlling but that is life for most children who have been brought up in a military/civil service family where mum or dad is high profile.

deedeeliz

My colleague nearly lost his DV clearance as his wife didn't fill in a form relating to her car insurance or something, he could have lost his job due to that!

Standard SC clearance is different though, a bit more relaxed, if I were you I'd still disclose which countries you want to visit, they wont stop you.

For example my old employee wanted to know if people were visiting a 'certain country', and my friend was from that country!

Andy_L

omelette451 wrote: »

And which would be the 'dodgy' countries then? For many people, off-the-beaten-track travelling is part of the joy of going away.

In this context, those that are undertaking espionage activities against us or are harbouring those that are.

bookduck

If you job is that secret/sensitive to the point where you hesitate to divulge your career details to members of this fairly anonymous board, the perhaps you should heed their warnings and have your hols in a friendly country - like the UK

Heard Blackpool is good, this time of the year

omelette451

Andy_L wrote: »

In this context, those that are undertaking espionage activities against us or are harbouring those that are.

So that would be all of them then...?

Paparika

omelette451 wrote: »

And which would be the 'dodgy' countries then? For many people, off-the-beaten-track travelling is part of the joy of going away. Indeed, many of the world's 'rogue states' are supposed to be the most welcoming and most interesting to visit. I'm thinking of Iran and Venezuela here, among others, and I would have a big problem with any employer who punished me for wanting to go there or tried to read more into it than is really there.



So you're saying that someone could be in trouble with his employer because of what his children want to do in their spare time? Even when they're over 18 and supposedly free to live their own lives? Isn't this a bit over-controlling?

I think in current climates staying safe and perhaps alive was more of a priority than getting a bit stroppy about assuming it's a bit over-controlling

maninthestreet

Paparika wrote: »

I think in current climates staying safe and perhaps alive was more of a priority than getting a bit stroppy about assuming it's a bit over-controlling

It should be down to each individual to decide what is and isn't safe for them, in their own time.