High Cholesterol

teddyco

Statins in the USA rake in $15 Billion, give me a break.

Drug companies managed to manipulate the lowering of national U.S. cholesterol guidelines to start their drugs in the first place. If it were up to them, they would sell their drug in bulk to all local municipalities so we could have it in our water supply.

MoneySavingPharmacist, the drug companies that you so arrogantly support, have managed to brainwash doctors to such a degree that statins are to the point of being handed out like candy.

I heard a story from a doctor friend last week who told me about one of his patient's who called him from the intensive care unit because her husband had a heart attack and they wanted to put him on Lipitor even though his cholesterol was only 150.

Absolute insanity.

teddyco

Ted_Hutchinson,

I agree with you on your opinions about diet versus drugs. You sound like an educated person who has done his research.

My mother works in the medical industry in the United States and I can tell you honestly it has been an uphill battle for her, her friends in the industry and others who work with her to try and seek healthy alternative answers for their patients while fighting the greedy pharma companies whose only solution is to shove a pill down everyone's throat.

It really is a tragedy that so many U.S. doctors have become nothing more than drug-pushers.

MoneySavingPharmacist said some very ugly and unprofessional things to me on another post where I had made some comments about the need for better diet rather than drugs.

However, it doesn't surprise me that a person with his attitude has chosen that industry.

Ted_Hutchinson

teddyco wrote: »

However, it doesn't surprise me that a person with his attitude has chosen that industry.

Indeed anyone who participates in an industry that jeopardies the health of patients, deliberately, knowingly by pushing a synthetic, relatively ineffective, form of Vitamin D simply so they can make more profit for big pharma by restricting access to effective levels of the natural effective form of that vitamin, is clearly ethically challenged.

MSP is very keen on pushing the use of statins but when you look at the fraudulent science that is used to push them you know that anyone who falls for it must be either daft or corrupt. Hyperlipid does a good hatchet job on some of it in this blog

Medicines that can ruin your sex life

Here is the list of preparations that may negatively affect sexlife.

arunadasi

GucciShoes wrote: »

High Cholestorel. Now isn't there some interesting new evidence about this that says that basically it's a big load of nonsense? People who live longest have the highest cholesterol levels or something like that.
If you google it, you will find the new reports.

I found the website www.westonaprice.org a mine of information.
Here's one article about cholesterol and diet that even a non-science person can follow>
http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/cholesterol-friend.html
And some more about fats in gerneral:
http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/index.html

EssexGirl

After being told that my cholesterol level had risen yet again, it's 6.6 apparently, so I was sent off to the chemist with a prescription for Simvastatin. I asked the doctor if taking them would be a permanent or temporary measure and he just shrugged and said "we'll see". I read the leaflet in the box and it says not to take them if you are pregnant or trying for a baby, we are currently TTC after 2 miscarriages last year.

My dad had his first heart attack at 45, he went on to have another heart attack and triple bypas surgery and a new valve. So at 36, understandably I'm scared. But I'm scared of taking the statins too. I've decided to take things into my own hands and go the diet and excercise route. It's not just my weight this time, it's my life.

Ted_Hutchinson

Vitamin D and Cardiovascular Disease Prevention

If you haven't the 45minutes needed to view this video then a quick skim through the slides used in that presentation will help.

This is the heart disease one but the others are equally important.
Cardiovascular Disease: Major New Frontiers for Prevention
by David C. Sane, M.D.

Do also check out what Dr Davis of the Heartscanblog has to say about risk reduction for heart disease.
Sterols should be outlawed

Margarine and Phytosterolemia Stephan Wholehealthfoodsource also has a recent interesting blog on this topic.

NEW BOOK SHOWS BILLIONS ARE BEING WASTED ON STATINS

$29 Billion Reasons to Lie about Cholesterol Making Profit by Turning Healthy People into Patients by Justin Smith summary of chapter contents.

Letter to your Doctor to initiate statin prescription debate

Dr Davis makes the point here that it is the Plaque is the disease, cholesterol is not. Cholesterol is simply a crude risk for plaque.

moneysaving_pharmacist

teddyco wrote: »

Statins in the USA rake in $15 Billion, give me a break.

Drug companies managed to manipulate the lowering of national U.S. cholesterol guidelines to start their drugs in the first place. If it were up to them, they would sell their drug in bulk to all local municipalities so we could have it in our water supply.

MoneySavingPharmacist, the drug companies that you so arrogantly support, have managed to brainwash doctors to such a degree that statins are to the point of being handed out like candy.

I heard a story from a doctor friend last week who told me about one of his patient's who called him from the intensive care unit because her husband had a heart attack and they wanted to put him on Lipitor even though his cholesterol was only 150.

Absolute insanity.

As I understand it, the drugs markets are quite different in the UK and in the States. We have far higher levels of generic prescribing in the UK which gives considerable cost savings.

We also have NICE in the UK, who are independent of the industry.

Also, why is it ridiculous to start someone on lipitor when they have recently had a heart attack? Having a heart attack increases your risk of having another one. Statins reduce your risk of a heart attack, regardless of you cholesterol level. Where is the madness in this?

Ted_Hutchinson

moneysaving_pharmacist wrote: »

We also have NICE in the UK, who are independent of the industry.

I think it is reasonable to say that NICE is "perceived" as being independent from industry, but I'm not convinced NICE is "perceived" as being independent from government.

However, when you look in detail at the way the Guidance is worked out in practice it is fair to say that the "establishment" view of those who are currently deeply involved in the way things are currently managed both as commercial and health service stakeholders is bound to affect the type and nature of decisions they make.

You only have to look at the lists of stakeholders to see all the usual suspects with vested interests in preserving the status quo.

arunadasi

Another enlghtening book on Cholseterol, one that even laypeople can read (it's on my bookshelf!) is The Cholesterol Myths by Uffe Ravnskov

Ted_Hutchinson

Fat and cholesterol - four paradoxes (Open letter to the scientific community)
I expect most people here are aware that in Sweden the public have turned on those scientists who have been deliberately misleading the public with biased research paid for by big pharma.
The link above is a rough GOOGLE TRANSLATE version of a newspaper article that I think conveys the issue very well.

here is another of his articles in relation to diabetes.
Fat alarm terrible consequences