Getting My Money Back From Trafford Councils Bailiffs

5yno

Hi there;) ,not sure if anyone on this forum has had any dealing with Trafford Council and their bailiff !!!!!! but if you have and think you might have been charged 2 or more van fees for council tax or business rates then you might be able to get 2nd3rd van fee charges back (if applied for 2008/9 arrears) apparently in April 2008 Trafford Council told there bailiffs not to apply more than 1 van charge to any accounts that they give to them:D
SO GET LOOKING THROUGH YOUR STATEMENTS AND SEE WHAT CHARGES THEY HAVE WACKED ON.

YOU READY FOR THIS MY CHARGES.
£24.50 first visit (ok I expected that)
£18.00 second vist (yep new that one as well)
£12.00 walking possesion(yep)
£62.75 levy (so far so good bailiffs haven't let me down with charges)
£285.00 Attendance/Van (WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
£285.00 Attendance/Van (:eek: THEY HAVE GOT TO BE HAVING A LAUGH)

£687.25 total charges added


Complained to council about unfair charges so I am awaiting a cheque for £285.00

.......BUT (hear we go) A van charge of £285.00 when the bloody bailiff drives around all day every bloody day in a van,it's not as though he went out and hired a brand new shiney van to take my stuff away in, so that he didn't get any of it dirty is it!!!!!!! The firms only based about 20 miles away what kinda fuel was the theiving git using something they bought in from NASA to get them to debtors quicker..... Oh sorry!! just thought, it might have been one of those new flying vans that I've seen knocking about at Manchester Airport,so if you are a bailiff I do apologise because those flying vans are really expensive to run.

Glad I got that off my chest

I want part of my £285.00 1st van fee back and I'm going to constantly contact them and annoy them until they hand it over just to get rid of me(see how they like it!!!)


Seriously though the bailiff has commited an act of Fraud by adding the 2nd van charge,as he will have been aware that no 2nd van charges should have been added,so I am looking into this aswell.



I would be intrested if anyone in the Trafford area has had van charges added to their account if you could pm me as the van charges go from one extreme to another. (Mrs M 1st Van Charge £95.00 2nd Vand Charge £170.00)(Mr R 1st Van Charge £125.00 2nd Van Charge £185.00)these are for concil tax whearas mine were for B/Rates,but as I said I would be intrested.bye,bye for now.

RAS

Hi

You need to stop spitting feathers and give us more helpful information.

Did the bailiff come into your house. Did you sign a walking possession order/levy?

RAS

There is a member on here who is the bailiff expert, their user name is Herbie21. but this is their website, have a read through it

http://www.bailiffadviceonline.co.uk/

if you pm Herbie21 and RobertoMoir, they can help you.

5yno

I owed for business rates,so they just walked into my premises,I did sign a walking possessions on my company van

RAS

If you need that van to do your work, it is probably exempt from levy.

You must pm Herbie or talk to Business Debt Line first thing tomorrow.

RobertoMoir

5yno wrote: »

Hi there;) ,not sure if anyone on this forum has had any dealing with Trafford Council and their bailiff !!!!!! but if you have and think you might have been charged 2 or more van fees for council tax or business rates then you might be able to get 2nd3rd van fee charges back (if applied for 2008/9 arrears) apparently in April 2008 Trafford Council told there bailiffs not to apply more than 1 van charge to any accounts that they give to them:D
SO GET LOOKING THROUGH YOUR STATEMENTS AND SEE WHAT CHARGES THEY HAVE WACKED ON.

YOU READY FOR THIS MY CHARGES.
£24.50 first visit (ok I expected that)
£18.00 second vist (yep new that one as well)
£12.00 walking possesion(yep)
£62.75 levy (so far so good bailiffs haven't let me down with charges)
£285.00 Attendance/Van (WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
£285.00 Attendance/Van (:eek: THEY HAVE GOT TO BE HAVING A LAUGH)

£687.25 total charges added


Complained to council about unfair charges so I am awaiting a cheque for £285.00

.......BUT (hear we go) A van charge of £285.00 when the bloody bailiff drives around all day every bloody day in a van,it's not as though he went out and hired a brand new shiney van to take my stuff away in, so that he didn't get any of it dirty is it!!!!!!! The firms only based about 20 miles away what kinda fuel was the theiving git using something they bought in from NASA to get them to debtors quicker..... Oh sorry!! just thought, it might have been one of those new flying vans that I've seen knocking about at Manchester Airport,so if you are a bailiff I do apologise because those flying vans are really expensive to run.

Glad I got that off my chest

I want part of my £285.00 1st van fee back and I'm going to constantly contact them and annoy them until they hand it over just to get rid of me(see how they like it!!!)


Seriously though the bailiff has commited an act of Fraud by adding the 2nd van charge,as he will have been aware that no 2nd van charges should have been added,so I am looking into this aswell.



I would be intrested if anyone in the Trafford area has had van charges added to their account if you could pm me as the van charges go from one extreme to another. (Mrs M 1st Van Charge £95.00 2nd Vand Charge £170.00)(Mr R 1st Van Charge £125.00 2nd Van Charge £185.00)these are for concil tax whearas mine were for B/Rates,but as I said I would be intrested.bye,bye for now.

£285 seems a bit steep but probably within the guidelines for NNDR. Some bailiff companies (and councils for that matter) seem to think business rates are nothing but a cash cow, which might be true if you're turning over a wetherspoons or the local tesco but simply isn't the case for a lot of the smaller sole trader and partnership businesses that exist everywhere, as I'm sure you don't need me to to tell you.

More than one van fee is naughty though, no debate there.

RobertoMoir

RAS wrote: »

If you need that van to do your work, it is probably exempt from levy.

You must pm Herbie or talk to Business Debt Line first thing tomorrow.

I'd love to hear Herbie's thoughts on this too. As the debt is NNDR rather than domestic, the rules are slightly different. It's been a heck of a long time since I had to know this, but IIRC you can levy on tools of the trade for business, but you can't essentially put someone out of business. So if the business relies on mobility as part of doing what it does then the van couldn't be taken, but if the van simply makes things easier, but it's still possible without the van, then the van could be taken. Or if they had two vans, you could take one, for example.

We're rapidly heading out of my memory's comfort zone there, so 5yno, please don't take my comments as gospel or even close to it until someone with more up to date knowledge like Herbie has looked things over.