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Mortgage Protection Insurance Discussion

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  • In 2002 we took out MPP & for my husband in addition to the death cover we added unemployment cover & sickness cover
    The problem is with the sickness cover & premium waiver which has a 3 month deferral period
    In January my husband had a spinal operation - he needed 2 cervical discs replacing & also has damaged shoulder muscles - we notified the insurers & towards the end of the 3 month deferral period filled in the 16-page !!claim form & sent it off with copies of sick notes, hospital letters etc.etc.etc...
    The insurers have been in touch with his employer & with our GP (Twice) - they have asked for surgery notes going back to 1995 !! & they are now saying that we have withheld information on the application form because we did not mention that my husband suffers from (mild) asthma -- we did not mention it because we were only asked if there were any medical conditions requiring ongoing treatment or if he had been off work sick for any period in excess of 3 weeks - his asthma is mild - he does occasionally use an inhaler - but has never been off work because of it - any way since when did mild asthma affect the cervical discs
    It looks like they are trying to get out of paying - what do we do now - can anyone offer any advice
  • dunstonh
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    they are now saying that we have withheld information on the application form because we did not mention that my husband suffers from (mild) asthma

    Ask them for a copy of the application and tell them that their questions didnt require disclosure. Although be wary that there is usually a catchall question that covers things like this.
    It looks like they are trying to get out of paying

    They probably arent. They may have gone digging to see if they could but the FOS guidelines on non-disclosure wouldnt allow them to not pay out in this case. a) its not related to the claim and b) from the way you describe it, it isnt something that would likely have increased premiums or resulted in rejection of cover.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • easylife73
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    Could someone offer me some advice please? I have been driving myself (and my poor husband) mad for two whole weekends now and I don't seem to be making any progress!

    We have a mortgage of about £740 a month and both work. My husband is in the police force and I work in admin in a school. He obviously earns a lot more than me, but if we lost my earnings that would be the equivalent of losing our mortagage repayment each month.

    We have just taken out a S&A policy for him, to kick in after 6 months, as we both get 6 months full pay and 6 months half pay. I was looking at getting an U,S&A policy for me, but due to my lower earnings, the most I could get would be 75%.

    My question is, is it worth it? And if so, what sort of policy should I get? I just want to make sure we are covered for the unexpected, but I am getting a little nervous that even if I go for a policy, somehow we will be unable to claim, as there are so many clauses that seem to kick in.

    Any advice would be gratefully received!
  • dunstonh
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    My question is, is it worth it

    It is if you suffer a claimable event.
    And if so, what sort of policy should I get?

    permanent health insurance (PHI) is most likely the best option.
    I am getting a little nervous that even if I go for a policy, somehow we will be unable to claim, as there are so many clauses that seem to kick in.

    With a PPI that can often be the case as its underwritten at point of claim. However, PHI policies are underwritten at point of application and have a much higher claims success rate.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • New question re MPPI, can't find the answer in search...

    Unlike Mortgage Life Cover, MPPI seems to be a policy for individuals only, therefore I presume both my wife and I should have separate policies.

    Is it required then, that I specify the actual monthly mortgage payment when getting a quote, or should I and my wife each specify 50% of the cost in our separate policies, on the basis that if we both were made redundant the two policies would contribute half of the mortgage each (and if one of us were still in work, the other 50% could still be afforded from salary)?

    Many thanks in advance!
  • meryll83
    meryll83 Posts: 73 Forumite
    Forgive me if this is a stupid question...

    If as a couple want MPPI, do I have to do 2 separate quotes and applications for each individual, with both being covered for the full monthly mortgage payment?

    We did it through our lender before, so that's why I don't know quite what I'm doing!!!
  • dunstonh
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    meryll83 wrote: »
    Forgive me if this is a stupid question...

    If as a couple want MPPI, do I have to do 2 separate quotes and applications for each individual, with both being covered for the full monthly mortgage payment?

    We did it through our lender before, so that's why I don't know quite what I'm doing!!!

    Depends on what level of benefits you want and which provider you intend to use.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • meryll83
    meryll83 Posts: 73 Forumite
    dunstonh wrote: »
    Depends on what level of benefits you want and which provider you intend to use.
    Can you point me in the direction of any advice on this?
  • dunstonh
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    meryll83 wrote: »
    Can you point me in the direction of any advice on this?


    https://www.unbiased.co.uk - the uk database of independent financial advisers.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • marshallka
    marshallka Posts: 14,585 Forumite
    dunstonh wrote: »
    You are only allow to protect yourself up to 75% of your income (many providers stop at lower figures). This is a combination of all your policies and payment protections, waiver of premiums on pensions etc. So, if the £1500 is around the 75% mark then yes, they are correct in refusing your claim.





    The FOS cannot overule the Govt limits.

    .

    Dunstonh, can you please answer this for all of us. If you have MPPI and also PHI and the PHI is for 75% of your income can you still claim the MPPI as well????
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